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Cute characterization of that childish corniness.
Some are just terminally uncool constantly cringy and completely unconscious of their cope.
I honestly thought you were talking about this:

1) Why are the Russians dragging dead Ukrainians into their position? Because the cosplay actors are not combat soldiers and have no clue how to stage a battle.
2) Why is the camera set to crop the faces of Russian fighters? Because after 10 of these videos, everyone would begin to recognize the cosplay actors.
3) There is a dead Ukrainian staged near a Russian(s) at each of the choreographed stops (00:03, OO:36, and 00:53). Who lounges around next to dead bodies, one with a freshly shaven haircut and no mud on it.?
4) The fake battle sounds in the background are a giveaway.
5) The Russian uniforms are all the same pattern camo, and are all clean even the kneepads, they have goggles on their helmets and they all have top shelf kit.
6) The are no trenches, no spent bullet casings or tossed mags on the ground.
7) The camera never pans to the horizon to prevent geolocation.
8) No plates in the Ukrainian vests and if the Russian took the plates, the vests would not still be on them.
9) The cameraman has a Go-Pro in his hand (shadow at 00:58) and his sole combat mission is to follow around the lead cosplay actor and collect cinematic content.
10) The only shots fired are "somewhere in the distance". When a friendly kneels down - he should be providing suppressive fire, we don't hear any.
They cover huge amounts of distance without actually firing a single shot. etc. etc.
He could have just said “Ukrainians don’t die, they regroup” or something, same energy IMO.

But nice experiment, I wanted to make a post in the same style as that

“xxxx have be exterminated from this earth”
“Xxxxx should not be allowed to breed”
“If you kill xxxxx then you make sure that the children of their race will not get born”
“Xxxxx is the most disgusting and dirty race on the planet”

-guy, you know who I mean. His posts don’t really get deleted or something even though he is advocating for literal genocide often, but imagine his posts, literally the same posts, but with RuSSians replaced with Ukrainians.. That would be considered trolling. Same exact post, but with 1 word replaced. Think about that btw.
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I honestly thought you were talking about this:



He could have just said “Ukrainians don’t die, they regroup” or something, same energy IMO.

But nice experiment, I wanted to make a post in the same style as that

“xxxx have be exterminated from this earth”
“Xxxxx should not be allowed to breed”
“If you kill xxxxx then you make sure that the children of their race will not get born”
“Xxxxx is the most disgusting and dirty race on the planet”

-guy, you know who I mean. His posts don’t really get deleted or something even though he is advocating for literal genocide often, but imagine his posts, literally the same posts, but with RuSSians replaced with Ukrainians.. That would be considered trolling. Same exact post, but with 1 word replaced. Think about that btw.
You sound butthurt.

His posts DO get deleted. Often. Some of them are moved into threads you can't see and not every post that disappears for you is deleted. You just can't see the threads they get moved to.

There are no rules against writing "ruSSians". That is not trolling anyone else but Russians in general. Another member here calls all Ukrainians "ukrainshits" and that is not against the rules either.

There is also no official rule about talking about genocide. But for me personally, it's not a good look for anyone to "playing god" calling for the culling of a select group of people and that's right up there with animal/child abusers as far as I'm concerned. POS behavior.

There is no rule about ljubodrag showing blissful joy about the videos he posts and there is no rule about me bitching about it.

There are, however, rules and guidelines of this section (listed at the top of every ru/ua thread) such as no discussions in this thread that aren't directly related to the footage posted, war footage only in here, no talking about other wars, no misinformation, and the site rule of no trolling other members outside the watercooler. All of which you have been guilty of multiple times.

You're as hard headed as anyone else is in here when it comes to doing things you shouldn't so you should stop bitching about what other people are doing and let the mods worry about it.
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In today's episode Alex “Sasha” Coburn


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Despite some skepticism that Russian President Vladimir Putin would ever invade Ukraine, for nearly three months the world has witnessed the destruction of cities and civilians. No one knows this better than former Palmyra High School student-athlete Alex “Sasha” Coburn, who is currently stationed in Kyiv fighting in the war.

Born in Ukraine, Coburn was placed in an orphanage at age 6. In 2015, he got involved in a hosting program through which he was introduced to Palmyra residents Patricia Coburn and Brian Coburn, his now adopted parents, as well as his adopted siblings, Payge, Brian, Brady, Bronson and Bryce.

“Palmyra was great,” said Coburn. “I loved the little town, and especially the big-hearted people.

“I found my church family at Palmyra Grace Church, which has been a huge support for me during this difficult time.”

Coburn played soccer and wrestled for PHS, and he finished his athletic and academic career in 2019. The adoption process took Patricia and Brian Coburn to Ukraine three times in the course of a year. At age 16, Coburn legally became a part of his American family.

“Sasha was given so many wonderful experiences here in America. We are so proud of the man he has become and are so thankful that he is part of our family,” Patricia Coburn said.

In January 2022, Coburn returned to Ukraine to attend a Discipleship Training School and decided to stay to become a missionary.


One month later, Russian forces invaded Ukraine and officially began the unprovoked war. Since then, the lives of ordinary Ukrainians have changed drastically.

Refugees have fled the country and have gone to seek shelter in neighboring countries such as Poland, Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia.

“My life has changed radically, for example for the last month I’ve slept in bed only twice. Before Russia started a full war against my homeland I was a missionary with YWAM (Youth With A Mission). I was helping people and sharing my faith,” Coburn said. “I do the same thing now but in military uniform and a rifle.”

Coburn, like many Ukrainians, had mixed feelings about if, or when, the war would happen. Some were preparing, and some believed it would never happen.

“I knew it would happen sometime but not when it actually did,” Coburn said.

According to the United Nations, more than 4 million Ukrainians have fled; half of those are children. Most fathers have stayed back to engage in the conflict by providing aid, medical attention, or fighting in the war.

Coburn’s family and many others from Palmyra are showing support during this difficult and stressful time. Patricia Coburn connects with Coburn daily through Facebook Messenger.

“Support in this time means a lot from anyone, but (support) from the family is a special motivation,” said Coburn.

Coburn currently has no plans to return to the United States. He is determined to fulfill a responsibility.

“I’m not here to fight. I’m here to defend… defend people, freedom and my homeland Ukraine,” Coburn said.

https://lancasteronline.com/news/reg...422f51df6.html

‘I just know I have to’: Lebanon County man puts life as missionary on hold to join armed forces in Ukraine

Alex Coburn came from Ukraine to Palmyra, Lebanon County, as a 15-year-old orphan looking to start a new life with a host family.

In the fall of 2021, Coburn returned to his homeland as a missionary with a group called Discipleship, part of Youth with a Mission, after spending a few months in the nation of Georgia. As Russia invaded Ukraine in early 2022, his mission shifted to answering the call of duty in his home country’s time of need.

“I have passion for my people and my nation,” Coburn said.

After initially working as a Newsmax translator then joining a volunteer medic group, Coburn is now enlisted in the infantry units of the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces.

“I knew I had to be a part of some military because those were my people being killed and I want to stop that,” he said.

Coming to the U.S.
Alex came to Palmyra in the summer of 2015 when he was 15 years old as part of a program called Guglielmo Hope, a hosting program that brings orphaned children from around the world to the United States, said Patricia Coburn, Alex’s mother.

She described Alex’s life with an American family as different from what he was used to in Ukraine, where he was in an Internat — a mixed boarding school for orphans and children of families living in poverty. He had to use Google Translate to talk with his family at first, but took language classes at Palmyra High School, Patricia said. He also got involved with extracurricular activities, played sports and was also homeschooled.

“The transition was hard at the beginning because literally everything was different and new for me,” Alex said. “But with time it got much better, especially when my language was improving.”

While he quickly took on the role of the “oldest child in the family,” Patricia said she left it up to Alex as to whether or not he would be adopted into their family.

With the five other children in the family, adoption proved to be a formality.

“I felt that I was a part of the family even before I was actually adopted,” Alex said.

The adoption process took 10 months and involved three trips to Ukraine, but Patricia said her family’s experience was easy compared to others she heard about. Alex was officially adopted by the Coburns on June 15, 2016.

“We felt led by God to complete the process and saw his hand in it the whole time,” Patricia said.

Answering the call of duty
Alex remembered his own initial shock when the invasion began.

“It was hard to believe that it’s real,” Alex said. “Often I would catch myself thinking that it’s not real.”

Alex initially worked as a translator from Feb. 20 to 24 for Newsmax then he joined the Here’s Hope Ministries team, a volunteer medic group of former military members and paramedics. He got in touch with the group thanks to his former wrestling coach and church member from Palmyra Grace, Shane Manney.

Manney, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, previously worked with some of the members of that group in the Free Burma Rangers — a humanitarian service group that operates primarily in Burma, Iraq and Sudan, and said he knew that Alex would fit in.

Alex explained it was a busy time initially, as the organization kept busy trying to find equipment and teaching others basic medical skills. However, when the medic team decided to leave Kyiv for a different city, Alex joined the Territorial Defense Forces on Feb. 27, a volunteer military branch. He and others in his group controlled checkpoints for entrances into Kyiv and patrolled the city at night.

Alex then enlisted with the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces on April 30. He said he’ll finish his training at the end of June and then be in the Reconnaissance Battalion. He’s not sure yet where he’ll be stationed.

Manney wasn’t surprised at Alex’s decision to enlist, and described him as someone who doesn’t run from a fight.

“I just tell him to learn from the guys that have been there, discretion is the better part of Valor, and to know what can kill you from how far out,” Manney said about the advice he gives Alex on being a soldier.

Alex said his reason to fight comes from a love for his people and his country.

“I just know I have to,” Alex said. “This is my home, and my faith gives me strength.”

Support from home
Patricia shared her son’s disbelief at the beginning of the invasion, describing the feeling of helplessness knowing her son was in the country as the invasion started. She recalled watching the news nonstop for updates when the invasion first started.

“We thought that he wouldn’t make it to his 22nd birthday,” Patricia said — Alex’s birthday is on March 28. “I cried a lot, and especially if anyone asked how I was doing.”

Now four months into the conflict, Patricia said, she’s able to get herself up to speed with the latest developments without losing her composure. She stays in touch with her son over social media, and has a chat history depicting his life in Ukraine — pictures of him sleeping on the ground, the food he eats and some descriptions of his schedule at training.

“He doesn’t want me to worry so it isn’t too detailed,” Patricia said. “My biggest questions are, ‘Are you sleeping, and what are you eating?’ and I don’t even like those answers.”

Alex said he messages friends and members of his church in Palmyra, and that anytime he needs financial help for supplies, they have supported him. His mother explained that he is responsible for supplying some of his own gear because of the destruction and supply chain issues because of the invasion.

While Alex works to keep himself fed and supplied for duty, he also continues to provide for his family still living in Ukraine, his mother said.

Alex also stays in touch with Manney.

“We mostly talk about the training he is doing, if he needs gear, or if we have any mutual friends in his immediate area,” Manney said. “We also laugh about old times during wrestling. When I asked about his current training he said to me, ‘It’s like fun, but different,’ which is what we used to say about wrestling.”

“War is a nasty thing and it is typically done by some of the finest men and women society has to offer,” said Manney, who along with his family has sent money to help Alex. “I’m glad we can play a small part in supporting him where God has called him.”

Though there’s no timetable for Alex to reunite with his family in Palmyra, they are already looking forward to when that day comes.

“It is hard for us to continue in daily life as usual and know that his country and life is completely turned upside down,” Patricia Coburn said. “There is a definite piece of our heart missing and constantly thought about.”

October 4, 2023
American volunteer Alex Brandon Coburn was killed in battle yesterday.

It is because of people like Sasha Coburn that Putin will not win.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread V

Drag doesn't give credit where it's due, but in his defense he's rather dull. He uses Twitter as his primary source (lol) and clearly believes the lowest-shelf, lowest effort RU propaganda.

Russians are lucky that Ukranians overall treat POW's very well. There's a lengthy video out there how they're fed well, kept busy, able to make some money and can call their loved ones back home. Russian media does not like talking about this.

Azerbaijanis however.... they seem to be complete animals. If Ukrainians did things like that, they'd be receiving a lot less help from the international community.
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- narrative falls apart the second somebody types in “Ukraine POW release” on youtube:

I think you're wasting your time on this bunch of arrogant, delusional, self righteous and egomaniacal narcissists with their moral superiority complex. Fuck em. I just wish there's a mute option for all of them.
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I think you're wasting your time on this bunch of arrogant, delusional, self righteous and egomaniacal narcissists with their moral superiority complex. Fuck em. I just wish there's a mute option for all of them.
Calling the kettle black. Good description of yourself!

Evidently you've been asleep for more than a year, Faust makes it a hobby to "waste his time" arguing with anyone pro Ukrainian with lies, exaggerations and other shenanigans - he's salty because he has zero credibility, I stopped bothering to count his lies. The "moral superiority complex" is well deserved as it's Russia that started this war, not Ukraine.. they're just defending themselves... and yet here you are doing a (shitty) job of cheerleading a bunch of invading orcs because you have some sort of love affair with the USSR. Don't get mad at us because you decided to back some psychopaths (Putin et al) who are having a hard time in a war of their choosing. It's only a matter of time until Russia packs their bags.

Reminder that in ~1.7 years Russia has managed to exceed by more than 2 the combat deaths the US accumulated in a decade of Vietnam. And that's just deaths, not casualties total. USSR quit after 16,000 deaths in Afghanistan over a decade. Fast forward a few years from now we're likely going to see Russia quit in Ukraine at some point. The earlier the better, the modern world doesn't need this shit nor dumb fucks like you approving it
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RedactedKaos I moved your 2014-15 video into the Russo-Ukrainian War Combat & Aftermath Media (2014 - 2022) thread.

Thanks for the video!
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Idk how I missed that...thank you & YW
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Idk how I missed that...thank you & YW
No worries. There are a shit ton of ru/ua threads.
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