[Guns N' Coffee]

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[WhiskeyOutpost]

Tchaikovsky Swan Lake but with men, can't build more world class ballerinas due to sanctions, lack of components

[luc21]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Tchaikovsky Swan Lake but with men, can't build more world class ballerinas due to sanctions, lack of components

[richy_dong]

Where's the Challenger 2 tanks? Haven't seen any yet

[duntez]

Originally Posted by richy_dong ↗

Where's the Challenger 2 tanks? Haven't seen any yet

There are rumors that England dosnt want to see them on the 0 line aka burned like leopards. But it is important to say that ammo that tank can use and the distance it can work from can be still used during some offensive operations I guess

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by richy_dong ↗

Where's the Challenger 2 tanks? Haven't seen any yet

They are probably not ready yet...just like Abrams tanks.
My guess is that Ukraine is still waiting for more equimpent + ukraine is re-adjusting its combat plans after Z blew up the dam and closed the southern front. Maybe they will cross the river via pantoon bridges in the next few months. Will see.

[marekparek]

I think Leopards did exactly what was expected. They well protected their crew. It is not indestructible weapon. But its crew protection is somwhere else comparing to soviet tanks. Number of Chalenger tanks is way lower in UA army, and their complexity and price is higher. There is probably Chobham armour in them, that is classified. So they are saved for later actions. Their time will come

[kellyhound]

Jun 22, 2023

Marking a monumental moment in Eastern Ukraine’s conflict with Russian forces, the formidable British Challenger 2 tanks have finally rolled onto the frontlines. Fresh footage from Ukraine’s 11th Separate Army Aviation Brigade reveals a menacing silhouette of one such tank, reportedly prowling close to Russian positions.

According to U.S. intelligence, these fearsome Challenger 2s have been a part of the tactical equation since their delivery in March, assigned to the agile 82nd Air Assault Brigade. This high mobility unit is a melting pot of power, also boasting German Marder fighting vehicles and American Stryker armored personnel carriers at their disposal.

It’s a sight to behold as the formidable Challenger 2 tanks, numbering a mere 14, join the frontline fray in Ukraine. These British beasts come on the heels of a massive influx of Western-made tanks, most notably the Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 designs, generously supplied by European nations since March. Yet, despite their numbers, these Leopard 2A6 tanks have not been invincible, with reports of several losses and even captures by Russian forces.

Adding to the might on the ground, Leopard 2A6s are partnered with mechanized infantry, cruising in M2 Bradley fighting vehicles donated by the United States. While Europe and the US have a seemingly endless supply of Leopards and Bradleys, the Challenger 2s are a rare breed. With just around 200 in service outside Ukraine and a total production of about 440, their appearance on the battlefield is indeed a moment of consequence.

Meet Challenger 2, the lone survivor of post-Cold War tank developments in the Western hemisphere. Its armor protection is unrivaled, but critics argue that the tank’s fire controls and thermal sights are starting to show their age.

It’s an interesting piece of trivia that the Challenger 2 remains the only tank in the world that employs a rifled gun, a method long abandoned by Soviet tanks in 1961, and by German and American tanks in 1979-1980. However, change is on the horizon. An upgrade package, commissioned by the British Army, is scheduled to introduce a powerful smoothbore gun later this decade. This significant update, aimed to enhance firepower against enemy armor, isn’t expected to affect any potential units that could be dispatched to Ukraine. But it certainly adds an intriguing layer to the Challenger 2’s narrative.

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Among the armored assets in Ukraine’s possession, the 14 British Challenger 2s stand out as the most formidable, vying for supremacy with the Leopard 2A6, the scarce T-84 Oplot—born from Soviet production lines—and a small batch of T-80UKs, a legacy of the USSR era. But the Achilles heel of these Soviet-era tanks lies in their lack of thermal sights, a crucial feature that has become almost ubiquitous since the Cold War’s end.

[WonderMomma]

Get used to the machine. Some fun during downtime on the front.

[xennex]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

No excuse for civilians deaths, but no excuse for using civilian venues during a war either as this makes them a target as well.

UKRAINIAN civilian venue. Populated by Ukranian civilians who had their country invaded and soldiers defending their invaded country. They didn’t cause this war, no matter what twisted brainwashed logic some may use, but both they and the Russian people are paying dearly for it.