[duntez]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Right out with the insults and thread derailing, this guy.

Looks like this guy's going down the tubes soon like his predecessors.

If anyone needs to go for insulting and calling names than roosta is the guy, Wailod is an Angel compare to him.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

Its not whataboutism, its reality of USA crimes, historically. Sending weapons to ukraine is also part of it. It will just prolong the war and make more casaulties. Russia is not starting wars, it is ending them.

"And Russia's wish for the Soviet Era ideologies"

Are u for real ? Soviet era, russian wishing ? damn.. You know nothing about russia if u think they are still trying to revive soviet era.

Everything about russian wannabe imperialism or bring back soviet era is part of your own propaganda bullshit. Russians are basically protecting their native speaking people from genocide. About USA warmongers: never saw such a childish view on Russia.. Its like when some people in NY were asked about EU countries, they cant point out even the bigger ones.

When you want to understand dictatorship, look at ukraine and their nazi support, glorifying bandera openly.

They don’t like to hear anything about what US did… it’s “WHATABOUTISM.” I still think this “WHATABOUTISM” defense they came up with is so stupid They have made this a rule to not compare bad Russia to US What can you do we are outnumbered here

[skich]

Originally Posted by Wailode ↗

I am not talking about ukraine as whole, but about their corrupt regime, leadership and delusional batalions who think they fight for democracy. Most people are like hostages in their own country.

People in donbass or luhansk really dont want to be part of Ukraine. Most of them are against it. They want war to end.

Refusing to acknowledge their own suverenity shows how much ukraine really care about democracy or people in nation. Everyone who is not literally blind know its corrupt regime.

Aaw, poor russkies in Bombas. The good ol' Russian textbook move.
As an empire or USSR occupy land. Then deport and/or repress local population while importing Russians into newly acquired territories until Russians are no longer minority group. Wait a couple of generations - It HaS aLwAyS bEeN rUsSiAn LaNd!

Russia has the same (even worse) government than Ukraine in regards of corruption, greed.

Mindless thousands are sent off as pure canon fodder and you say Ukrainians live in delusions.

Refusing to acknowledge Ukrainian sovereignty shows how much Russia cares about democracy and people.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Aaw, poor russkies in Bombas.

One of the reasons Fucking Maidan didn’t go there to negotiate… they didn’t give a fuck about this people to begin with.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Please note, I am not a complete newbie in this forum..I have only recently started to be more active, but Stalin is kind of a mascot and if I feel his ideas were wrong, I will tell that.

They argue literally just like Kremlin trolls/ bots/ supporters in my home countries media pages where comments are allowed. Textbook Kremlin shill behaviour. Textbook I tell you. I live next door to Russia, I know plenty of Russians. Mostly normal people, but imperialism is in their blood, chauvinism in their genes. They can't help it..they are simple creatures for the most part.

That is why I have noticed how often West also lie/ misinterpret things in this whole "event"..Russian language is a very simple language, barbaric almost, and it heavily relies on emotion and intonation. It sounds nothing like "western" languages so media manipulates.

I don't care who or where he is, he is actively discrediting a country that is defending itself from the cancer that is Russkij Mir, so in my eyes, he is a *put any swearword here*..simple as that. Russians (Slavs) have many things figured out and right, but it is funny how they want to paint themselves as conservative while in reality they are very liberal, apart from gay rights.

Oh my… another Baltic representative?

[skich]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

One of the reasons Fucking Maidan didn’t go there to negotiate… they didn’t give a fuck about this people to begin with.

Yes, just skip right over the part where I explained how those Russians are descendents of Russian forced immigrants during UsSR. You do know it was Ukrainian majority land before them, right? Because if you don't, I suggest you pump the brakes. Russia could have sent in their whole invasion force into DPR and LPR, bomb the shit out of Ukrainian command and front line and then say - listen, you either give this land away or we will truly invade, but no, Kremlin, fed wishful lies by their yesmen cronies, had the idea it will be easy to topple the government. Is chronology important only when it serves "your ideological side"?

To me, as an Eastern European, I seriously don't give two shits about what the evil West (US and Anglo-Saxons) has done WHILE Kremlin is actively trying to invade and subdue their neighbours.

Yes US has and is doing evil shit, yes US is expansionist and imperialistic to some degree. And yes, they have commited countless crimes of war and against humanity. Obama, a warmonger, got a Nobel Peace Prize - LMAO! BUT it all doesn't matter here.

The claims that Russia is fighting all of west is funny, because Russia is fighting Ukrainians armed with second-hand weapons and equipment. If Russia would be fighting US and NATO, trust me friend, Russia would be more than fucked. The two largest air forces are both in US. Are Ukrainians lied to? Yes. Does that mean Russia is in the clear to obliterate Ukraine? Fuck no.

This is what I always say to Kremlin shills - live in your swamps and don't bother others..nobody after Hitler has tried invading Russia and Russia has been invading their neighbours for centuries, constantly, because of their egomania and delusions.

[skich]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Oh my… another Baltic representative?

Russians usually refer to us as Nazis because they can't get over the fact that they lost some key ports and good, fertile land. Oh, and they always point out how some fought on Nazi side, as if there weren't thousands of Russians who did the same. We hanged our war criminals, USSR gave theirs medals.

But I am not one to live in the past, unlike some *cough* Russians *cough* with their ideas of grandeur and reclaiming lost lands.

Want to confuse a Russian? Admit that DPR and LPR should be independent based on the wishes of locals and then ask why Chechens can not do the same. Or Tuvans. Or any other smaller folk Russia has subjugated.

They are often illiterate in history. We have this ring that we name after a warchief in 13th century who fought against the Christians when they invaded, and Russians often call it a Nazi ring, because they are just so, so... Well, politely - fucking retarded.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Casaulties =/= KIA. You should know that. And since when is Mass media a credible source? Whenever it fits your angle or it bothers others?

I don't get why anybody is using any numbers with the degree of certainty that they do. Equipment is somewhat verifiable, but personnel? No way, all of them are just propoganda numbers, we will just have to give it time.

So far, time has been less favorible to Russians in regards of "factual and accurate information, and analitics".

While the BBC has been known to change their story many times; for years they painted the Ukrainian army and governments as N***’s prior to the invasion, they still are western media and hold the highest standard of truth to the people visiting this website, which I why I use those sources, because according to most of you, you can only trust the western media.

As for General Mark Milley, who is chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff (whatever that means). Has he been known to lie before? He represents the US government who are currently the most respected authority on any Ukrainian truth.

So you have one of the most respected western journalistic mediums, combined with an actual US general who represents a country which owns the truth on Ukraine, but you choose to not believe it because it conflicts with your view, sure, but that is not on me.

I merely contrasted the chance of a repost with the actual reposts and a reason why the number is higher then what one would expect based on casualties alone

Hate the BBC and the US government if you believe they are spreading lies about Ukrainian casualties, don’t hate the people quoting them

[duntez]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Yes, just skip right over the part where I explained how those Russians are descendents of Russian forced immigrants during UsSR. You do know it was Ukrainian majority land before them, right? Because if you don't, I suggest you pump the brakes. Russia could have sent in their whole invasion force into DPR and LPR, bomb the shit out of Ukrainian command and front line and then say - listen, you either give this land away or we will truly invade, but no, Kremlin, fed wishful lies by their yesmen cronies, had the idea it will be easy to topple the government. Is chronology important only when it serves "your ideological side"?

To me, as an Eastern European, I seriously don't give two shits about what the evil West (US and Anglo-Saxons) has done WHILE Kremlin is actively trying to invade and subdue their neighbours.

Yes US has and is doing evil shit, yes US is expansionist and imperialistic to some degree. And yes, they have commited countless crimes of war and against humanity. Obama, a warmonger, got a Nobel Peace Prize - LMAO! BUT it all doesn't matter here.

The claims that Russia is fighting all of west is funny, because Russia is fighting Ukrainians armed with second-hand weapons and equipment. If Russia would be fighting US and NATO, trust me friend, Russia would be more than fucked. The two largest air forces are both in US. Are Ukrainians lied to? Yes. Does that mean Russia is in the clear to obliterate Ukraine? Fuck no.

This is what I always say to Kremlin shills - live in your swamps and don't bother others..nobody after Hitler has tried invading Russia and Russia has been invading their neighbours for centuries, constantly, because of their egomania and delusions.

I never said Russia fights all the west, but peeps here keep saying all the west standing up against Russia. So it’s kind of backwards but about the same.
No need to play smarty pants by telling me what would will happen if 40!countries went to war with Russia… nuclear war most likely . Idk even know why did you start talking about it.

Listen this people were born there and lived for generations. It’s like saying Native American will say gtfo to all white skin invaders so called Americans and so on. Just stupid. On a top on that, how many Russians there? How many Ukranians? Exactly … Before Ukraine was ever mentioned in history, Tsars from Velikij Novgorod were ruling Kiev already.
Jesus I’m just too lazy to fight you… I’ve done it so many times here. Over and over again…
Btw, Not only Russians were sent to UA, but Ukrainians were sent to Russia too ( And no, they went there volonteerly) Zelenij Klin in Far East. Peasant with no land were offered big chunks of land of there and Ukrainians went there. Good region btw.
Have you ever herd of Ukranisation ?

[duntez]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Russians usually refer to us as Nazis because they can't get over the fact that they lost some key ports and good, fertile land. Oh, and they always point out how some fought on Nazi side, as if there weren't thousands of Russians who did the same. We hanged our war criminals, USSR gave theirs medals.

But I am not one to live in the past, unlike some *cough* Russians *cough* with their ideas of grandeur and reclaiming lost lands.

Want to confuse a Russian? Admit that DPR and LPR should be independent based on the wishes of locals and then ask why Chechens can not do the same. Or Tuvans. Or any other smaller folk Russia has subjugated.

They are often illiterate in history. We have this ring that we name after a warchief in 13th century who fought against the Christians when they invaded, and Russians often call it a Nazi ring, because they are just so, so... Well, politely - fucking retarded.

Lmao I was right.
I don’t give a flying fuck if your grand dad fought for Nazis or USSR.


And what’s wrong with all the groups of people you mentioned staying in Russia? Why do you think all of them want to be independent ? What made you think they don’t have a freedom overthere? From what I know they all can speak their languages, follow their traditions etc etc …