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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread III

and now about countries that USA invaded:

"global security" lol, more like global tyran and hypocrite

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/us-...rventions.html

This is where you need to be careful about "whataboutism". The US is not on the ground in Ukraine fighting in THIS war. Russia is.

And Russia's wish for the Soviet Era ideologies, or dictatorship, or whatever it is they or you want to call it is not what Ukraine wants. Simple as that.
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About the war, most of the eastern EU countries doesnt want to support this war on ukraine anymore. Only most delusional ones influenced by propaganda. Its just question of time before it crumble like afghanistan with was another USA lost war. USA is in big decline since 90s

Loses in ukraine are so big that they can hold for maybe couple of months before they lose. Its just question of time.
You cannot speak for an entire group of peoples in a whole country. Just because you don't want to support Ukraine as a representative of your country, doesn't mean the rest of the population feel the same. But one of the common [delusional or misguided] strategies/tactics of by people like you and others who believe the Russians are in the right, is grouping a entire population of any given nation together as one voice. Russia does it with Ukraine and the collective west. It's what you've been doing in here for days. That is not how it works and I think you know that.

I'm sure there are plenty that do not wish to support the war anymore... there are plenty in the US that do not want to anymore. But a majority of the people in those countries do, or as a member country of an organization such as NATO, they are inclined to do so not just for Ukraine's best interests, but for their own security interests, which is what I mean by "global security". It only takes common sense to realize if Russia gets what it wants in Ukraine... Slovakia, Moldova, Estonia, Lithuania, et al... are all vulnerable to Russia invading them next. Getting rid of your language, your culture and any person who does not want to become Russian.

So while you and likely others in Slovakia do not want to support Ukraine... there are more that do. And your country is a NATO country so if NATO as a whole is supporting them... so will Slovakia as a country. The countries that do not wish to support Ukraine, are not supporting them.

If you feel so strongly that Slovakia should not be supporting Ukraine, perhaps you need to concentrate your efforts more inward to make change there first, rather than here in half truths and misguided retorts, to people who have their feet planted on firmly the ground.

2 December 2022
Following a meeting with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, Káčer stressed that Slovakia will continue to support Ukraine in its defense against the Russian invasion.

“Yesterday our government approved a new defense aid package,” said Káčer.

“It includes ammunition – including large (artillery) calibers and for jet fighter (armaments), warm clothes, and other equipment.”

The minister added that Slovakia will also continue to provide humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

Dmytro Kuleba recalled that Slovakia was the first country to donate its air defense systems to Kyiv, and thanked the government for their plans to send about 300 generators to Ukraine, as the country’s power grid is reeling from repeated Russian attacks.
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Its not whataboutism, its reality of USA crimes, historically. Sending weapons to ukraine is also part of it. It will just prolong the war and make more casaulties. Russia is not starting wars, it is ending them.

"And Russia's wish for the Soviet Era ideologies"

Are u for real ? Soviet era, russian wishing ? damn.. You know nothing about russia if u think they are still trying to revive soviet era.

Everything about russian wannabe imperialism or bring back soviet era is part of your own propaganda bullshit. Russians are basically protecting their native speaking people from genocide. About USA warmongers: never saw such a childish view on Russia.. Its like when some people in NY were asked about EU countries, they cant point out even the bigger ones.

When you want to understand dictatorship, look at ukraine and their nazi support, glorifying bandera openly.
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You cannot speak for an entire group of peoples in a whole country. Just because you don't want to support Ukraine as a representative of your country, doesn't mean the rest of the population feel the same. But one of the common [delusional or misguided] strategy/tactic of by people like you and others who believe the Russians are in the right, is grouping a entire population of any given nation together as one voice. Russia does it with Ukraine and the collective west. It's what you've been doing in here for days. That is not how it works and I think you know that.
I am not talking about ukraine as whole, but about their corrupt regime, leadership and delusional batalions who think they fight for democracy. Most people are like hostages in their own country.

People in donbass or luhansk really dont want to be part of Ukraine. Most of them are against it. They want war to end.

Refusing to acknowledge their own suverenity shows how much ukraine really care about democracy or people in nation. Everyone who is not literally blind know its corrupt regime.
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That is the biggest two loads of shit I've read in here in months!

Did you read the previous discussion threads yet? Because it's mother fucking groundhogs day in here yet again.

I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. That... is what we will have to agree on. I think we're done here and good luck to you, sir.


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That is the biggest two loads of shit I've read in here in months!
Saying someone who literally believe russians want to restore soviet era. You are nuts. After your messages here I cant take you seriously anymore. If people like you are out there supporting foreign wars based on this propaganda and lies, then god help us
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Saying someone who literally believe russians want to restore soviet era. You are nuts. After your messages here I cant take you seriously anymore. If people like you are out there supporting foreign wars based on this propaganda and lies, then god help us
get your panties out of a twist and relax....

I was saying it in general... as in "whatever it is they are trying to do".

I have heard that term used a lot, as well as autocratic, czarist, dictatorship... whatever it is they, or you want to call it.

Whatever Putin is offering, it's not what Ukraine wants for their country.

I've been trying to be fairly cordial with you. I haven't been calling you names or insulting you personally... but yesterday you called me a thug, today I'm nuts.

Another strategy of someone who's completely lost touch with reality and only reads things the way he want to see them.
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Right out with the insults and thread derailing, this guy.

Looks like this guy's going down the tubes soon like his predecessors.
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Sending weapons to ukraine is also part of it. It will just prolong the war and make more casaulties. Russia is not starting wars, it is ending them.


Slow down there Ivan, hope those Kremlin checks are juicy. What a complete buffoon.
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread III

Wailode, you consistently speak like you are the pitchman for every former soviet-bloc cottage country in eastern europe. Additionally, you seem to be intent on labeling American citizens as warmongers, delusional, and quite uneducated. If you look behind enough bushes, you'll eventually find what you're looking for. To label every United States citizen that doesn't follow your worldview as bloodthirsty and empty-headed is to prove that your own worldview is vapid and comes from a position of ignorance.

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