[skich]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

yeah, thats a solid proof right there...an article with no relevant statistics, and the only statistics says that Spain is well off and not poor.

"Spain is among 17 of the 27 EU members that have a GDP below the community average"

EU average itself is already wealthy when compared to the world. Spain is definitely on the wealthy side, even within EU, when compared to the eastern europe and potential new countries that may join.
17 out of 27 also puts it close to middle.
And, yeah...Spain took a huge hit during covid years, since its was a very popular tourist destination, and suddenly it lost a major source of income. Luckily, tourisim is coming back and things will return to normal over time.

Saying Spain is poor is like saying a millionaire is poor because there are billionaires.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by skich ↗

Saying Spain is poor is like saying a millionaire is poor because there are billionaires.

Nobody said Spain is a poor country?

(Unless you cannot understand the concept of “relative”)

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Nobody said Spain is a poor country?

(Unless you cannot understand the concept of “relative”)

Yeah, you didnt say that they are nescessarily empoverished, but the intent was clear...Spain is getting hit by almighty Russian sanctions and Europe is suffering so much that anti Ukraine centiment is rising. The same kind of propaganda is being pushed on other websites as well, where Russian "bloggers" push all kinds of articles where "Europe is suffering" and "people are rising up" etc. Russia is spending billions on propaganda war. I think even Wagner's leader admitted to paying shit tons of money to "bloggers" to post crap about EU and comment on social media, pretending to be real users and talk shit about EU.
After a while, you start seing the same "arguments" over and over, on different websites...sometimes copy pasted verbatim form some kind of parent script.

PS:
Relatively speaking, Spain is rich, not poor. All european countries are relatively rich.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Yeah, you didnt say that they are nescessarily empoverished, but the intent was clear...Spain is getting hit by almighty Russian sanctions and Europe is suffering so much that anti Ukraine centiment is rising. The same kind of propaganda is being pushed on other websites as well, where Russian "bloggers" push all kinds of articles where "Europe is suffering" and "people are rising up" etc. Russia is spending billions on propaganda war. I think even Wagner's leader admitted to paying shit tons of money to "bloggers" to post crap about EU and comment on social media, pretending to be real users and talk shit about EU.
After a while, you start seing the same "arguments" over and over, on different websites...sometimes copy pasted verbatim form some kind of parent script.

PS:
Relatively speaking, Spain is rich, not poor. All european countries are relatively rich.

It’s all about how you look at at.
I can agree about Spain being relatively poor and I can agree about Spain being relatively rich…
And propaganda…Everyone does it. I’ll be surprised if you think western media is clear as a Jesus tear lmao. The University of propaganda really. Russia is learning from them

[WonderMomma]

This thread is about Russian/Ukrainian war mobilization, protesting, and sabotage. What's happening in other European countries unless they are specifically waving UA or RU flags or specifically talking about the war is not applicable.

Duntez's post about the anti-Ukraine artwork in Spain = On topic.
How wealthy or poor Spain is = Off topic.
How Faust handles his thermostat during these trying times = Off topic

This... this is on topic...

""Everything was stolen, they go to war in rubber boots," - a woman was pushed out of the bus in Moscow region for the truth about Russian army"

[WonderMomma]

Tangled webs, Simonyan's lies.

[WonderMomma]

Brick pomegranate, rotten oranges, opened wet wipes, cigarettes

▪️This is the kind of humanitarian aid given to the residents of Melitopol by the occupiers. Shame!

And they are waiting for someone to meet them with flowers

[WonderMomma]

Russians who knew too much about Kremlin's finances and military secrets and from Putin's circle are dying en masse in Russia.

Pavel Antonov, richest deputy of Russian Duma, died in India on 26th December. He fell out of a hotel's window where he celebrated his birthday.

Antonov's companion Vladimir Bidenov was found dead in the same hotel four days prior to Antonov's death.

Aleksey Maslov, 69, ex chief of Russian Ground Forces, died in hospital on 25 December.

Aleksandr Buzakov, 67, died on 24 December. He headed "Admiralty Shipyards" for 10 years - they produced submarines that shot Kinzhals at Ukraine.

Vladimir Sungorkin, 68, died in Russian Far East on 14 September. He was editor in chief of a popular Russian propaganda media Komsomolskaya Pravda.

Bodies of Sergey Protosenya, 55, his wife and daughter were found on a fancy villa in Spain on 20 April. Protosenya was Deputy Chairman of Novatek Board of Directors - a company engaged into producing natural gas, second in Russia in terms of production volumes.

Vladislav Avayev, 51, was killed in Moscow. Police also found the bodies of his wife and daughter in the apartment. Avayev was the vice-president of Gazprombank, third largest bank in Russia by assets.

Aleksandr Tyulyakov, 61, was found dead in Leninskiy village (where Gazprom's top managers live) on 25 February. He was Deputy General Director of Gazprom's SRC for Corporate Security.

Leonid Shulman, 60, was found dead in Leninskiy village where Gazprom's top managers live, on 30 January. Shulman was head of Transport Service of Gazprom Invest.


(there are more but this is all the source listed)

[skich]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Nobody said Spain is a poor country?

(Unless you cannot understand the concept of “relative”)

You argue funny. Like trying to make a point and then backing off of it and weaseling out of whatever you clearly meant, but you go "ha, but see, I din't mean this, because I used this particular word". We weren't born yesterday Faust. We can comprehend the "in between the lines". You are simple, you are easy to read. Why even bring it up really?

Video of Russian actor Aleksey Panin talks about Russian Federation.

Translation. Audio quality is low, so I might not be hearing/ interpreting it correctly at the start (marked in * *)
--- "That is why *ours and yours conversation* "When do you see perspectives (potential) of Russia?"- NEVER! Generations must change for there to be any perspective.
What in seventeenth year [inaudible/ maybe mentions some event or name], I am sorry for repeating myself, all is the same!"

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Russians who knew too much about Kremlin's finances and military secrets and from Putin's circle are dying en masse in Russia.

Pavel Antonov, richest deputy of Russian Duma, died in India on 26th December. He fell out of a hotel's window where he celebrated his birthday.

Antonov's companion Vladimir Bidenov was found dead in the same hotel four days prior to Antonov's death.

Aleksey Maslov, 69, ex chief of Russian Ground Forces, died in hospital on 25 December.

Aleksandr Buzakov, 67, died on 24 December. He headed "Admiralty Shipyards" for 10 years - they produced submarines that shot Kinzhals at Ukraine.

Vladimir Sungorkin, 68, died in Russian Far East on 14 September. He was editor in chief of a popular Russian propaganda media Komsomolskaya Pravda.

Bodies of Sergey Protosenya, 55, his wife and daughter were found on a fancy villa in Spain on 20 April. Protosenya was Deputy Chairman of Novatek Board of Directors - a company engaged into producing natural gas, second in Russia in terms of production volumes.

Vladislav Avayev, 51, was killed in Moscow. Police also found the bodies of his wife and daughter in the apartment. Avayev was the vice-president of Gazprombank, third largest bank in Russia by assets.

Aleksandr Tyulyakov, 61, was found dead in Leninskiy village (where Gazprom's top managers live) on 25 February. He was Deputy General Director of Gazprom's SRC for Corporate Security.

Leonid Shulman, 60, was found dead in Leninskiy village where Gazprom's top managers live, on 30 January. Shulman was head of Transport Service of Gazprom Invest.


(there are more but this is all the source listed)

Rather strange ! Damm Smoking Brigade has formed a new unit, The Toppers !