[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

What the bloody fuck, Faust. With all due respect, you are so emotionally reactive. Vietnam? Really?

Can you ever stay on topic instead of veering off into all out personal opinions about the US and bunching us all together in one box? Or ignore the basics fundamentals with THIS conflict to talk AROUND every question or point that's ever presented to you that is on topic?

How can you stand to live in the west as much as you loathe it? Seems to me it would be the last place you'd want to be. Unless your alternatives are far less appealing.

Yes we are fucked up, the US is fucked up. Russia is fucked up. Ukraine is fucked up. The whole world is fucked up in one way or another. Our media sucks, our government sucks. But so does everyone else's. Why? Because humans... there are humans. Everywhere. Do you think we're all over here cheering and yee hawing over how things are done?

Shit's fucked up! Most of us Americans who actually give a shit and genuinely concerned are quite familiar and conscious with our own issues, but this isn't a "Imperialist American Bullshit" discussion thread... or whatever.

I would suggest starting a new thread if you want to keep complaining about the west and America, so those of us trying to talk about Russia and Ukraine may do so.

Welcome to the magic fantasyland of logical fallacies, unrelated tangents and insanity that Faust chooses to live in, WonderMomma We literally had to create a word for this, it's "fausting", I think it was Rfneimad who coined it

[jkesil]

Originally Posted by Zerodark ↗

I guess this is Russians hit list

Look, russkie. Noone is on your side. The West is around 900M people. It is around 70% of global wealth. Of the 30% that’s left there is China which is 18%.

russkies are 0.73%.

Look it up. Countries by total wealth.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

What the bloody fuck, Faust. With all due respect, you are so emotionally reactive. Vietnam? Really?

Can you ever stay on topic instead of veering off into all out personal opinions about the US and bunching us all together in one box? Or ignore the basics fundamentals with THIS conflict to talk AROUND every question or point that's ever presented to you that is on topic?

How can you stand to live in the west as much as you loathe it? Seems to me it would be the last place you'd want to be. Unless your alternatives are far less appealing.

Yes we are fucked up, the US is fucked up. Russia is fucked up. Ukraine is fucked up. The whole world is fucked up in one way or another. Our media sucks, our government sucks. But so does everyone else's. Why? Because humans... there are humans. Everywhere. Do you think we're all over here cheering and yee hawing over how things are done?

Shit's fucked up! Most of us Americans who actually give a shit and genuinely concerned are quite familiar and conscious with our own issues, but this isn't a "Imperialist American Bullshit" discussion thread... or whatever.

I would suggest starting a new thread if you want to keep complaining about the west and America, so those of us trying to talk about Russia and Ukraine may do so.

I do believe this whole Ukraine-Russia conflict is used as copium for Afghanistan by quite a few.

That was hard even for me. In Vietnam we were taught to never retreat nor surrender. And then years later see our forces flee Afghanistan like cowards. Running away from who? People with no access to clean drinking water?

[Rfneimad]

We really need to stop using "we" when talking about the actions of our past countrymen. Nationalism solved some problems but scaled up a lot more.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Forgot to mention, after USSR broke up Ukraine had this bombers too, around 20 or so. But US forced them to destroy it, not for free.. so Chinese did get their hands on it. 8 bombers were given to Russia in exchange for gas.
The ones the Russia has went through deep modification some years ago.

Most beautiful bomber ever, really gracious

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Most beautiful bomber ever, really gracious

In the air yeah. Official name “white swan”

[Zerodark]

Originally Posted by SinisterNm ↗

Data? like those are two different seasons? 9/10 reposts or complete propagandist bs. you should to watch the backlog here first or your just gonna start posting shit.

Oh yeah I forgot season's are always the same right mad because it's Russian lol

[Faust]

Some countries are so big that they have different seasons; I could be an Ukrainian spy and blow up a Russian base in Siberia, film it, and post it and people would say: fake because there is snow and it’s not Christmas yet

[Rfneimad]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Some countries are so big that they have different seasons; I could be an Ukrainian spy and blow up a Russian base in Siberia, film it, and post it and people would say: fake because there is snow and it’s not Christmas yet

Generally, people posting things about the war arent anywhere or doing anything that matters relevant to the war. Its like the waste heat generated by internal combustion.

[wecefrsec]

Originally Posted by Zerodark ↗

So u are OK with war crimes but only if its done to Russians?

This is gonna piss on your bonfire poppet

Yes, but he is not alone. Its almost every Eastern Bloc is hating russkies. And whatever that NATO has been planning for this whole time, doesn't matter. Fuck most of the Russians, let them be as a fertiliser in Ukraine.
Slava Ukrainai.