[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Afghanistan nor Vietnam were about armies going into territory with civilians sharing the same language and ethnicity as the soldiers.

You are correct that if this were the US they would have already pulled back the troops and nuked the place. And we are not talking small yield tactical nukes here.

I'm not really implying much aside from this being an unsustainable loss. The Vietnam casualty numbers don't account for ARVN or ANZAC casualties.

I never said Americans would nuke anything, given the incredibly strong anti war sentiment of the time, unlike WW2. Not sure where that came from

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Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Americans that were born on an opposite historical sides. We could be friends, but politics ruined everything

I do apologize duntez, I can get a little opinionated. I hope you and your family had a good time wakeboarding. Never done that, yet.

Americans born on opposite sides - funny thing about my family. My mom of course is Latvian/Russian but she does have some old American roots. She's related to the Confederate General Stonewall Jackson, who commanded a civil war battle in which two of my Dad's union ancestors (Swiss German Americans) were wounded but survived. Pretty wild stuff when I found that out.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Stalemate. For now. Russians have gains in the east, Ukranians have gains in the south.

Lol

[Faust]

Also for the US wars; for every dead US soldier, about a 1000 civilians were killed.

Compare that to Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Rfneimad ↗

You guys don't even approach soccer fan hate though, step your games up.

Hitler was on meth, Zelensky is on steroids.

Putin's on himself. Even worse

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Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Also for the US wars; for every dead US soldier, about a 1000 civilians were killed.

Compare that to Ukraine

Yikes, citation needed for that.

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- Whoops

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Yikes, citation needed for that.

I wanted you to respond with:

“That is a lie! Only 132 civilians were killed per US soldier, chemical weapons (agent orange) and depleted uranium don’t count!! Hurrah!”

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Originally Posted by Faust ↗

I wanted you to respond with:

“That is a lie! Only 132 civilians were killed per US soldier, chemical weapons (agent orange) and depleted uranium don’t count!! Hurrah!”

Not really the point here. Here it is again it's just numbers.

[Rfneimad]

I think the Russian military model is based on getting people who dont really want to fight to get at angry at their comrades senseless deaths and go fight. They need the initial slaughter to wake the bear up.