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i wanted to show you this conversation between a russian and a ukrainian girl on a chatroulette, she asks him why would he go to Ukraine in 5 days? and he answers "im just for in idea to shoot people, and nobodys gonna do anything about it"
what a worthless scum, hopefully ukrainians will kill him or he will return a cripple , unwanted and miserable
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Friday, July 1st, 2022
5:52 p.m.
So we figured it out ...
Malicious intent in the story of the collection on the ONF website (tyts- beginning,tyts- continuation) has traditionally not been found, only the consequences of the completely natural desire of people to quickly help the army, traditionally leading to similar situations when people lack experience and local contacts.

I tell the story in the form in which it has been restored to the current moment.

They wanted to help the entire NM of the LPR, and the "Ghost" too. But, since the entire battalion is fighting, the command of the "Ghost" specifically could not find and receive a list of the needs of a particular battalion in a timely manner. Therefore, to the filmed (without representatives of the battalion in the frame) video on the website of the ONF hastily (it must be faster, faster, the war is on) was added a list of needs voiced by the senior leaders of the NM of the LPR. The needs for the NM of the LPR as a whole are very urgent, I already wrote that the same Baofengs are forced to be the only available means of radio communication for many reservist units.

I just spoke with the local representative of the ONF. A person has been dealing with the issue for only two months. So it's not surprising that this happened. It had to happen. It's like a friendly fire. In a war, in general haste and confusion, you will definitely have it, the main thing is that no one dies when it happens, and then you draw conclusions, and everything will be as it should be - you will learn how to organize interaction both in your area of ​​​​responsibility and along its borders. Or you won't, won't, and won't learn. It all depends on the desire to deal with the issue caused by experienced thrills.

Actually, in front of me now, in addition to the entire list of previous tasks that I had this morning, I also have to "teach people how to buy Baofengs for the People's Militia of the LPR." The matter is not easy,OPSB , so I'm going to have breakfast in the adit before starting the process. And then I'll tell you a little funny about these very "baofengs".

PS

While writing all this, a signalman from the brigade walked by, complaining that the trophy supply of communications from the Armed Forces of Ukraine went worse and worse, instead of the 4000th Motorol series, the 2000th is increasingly coming across.

While the signalman, spoiled by the KCPN , was walking by, a representative of the reservists appeared at the door, for whom I have "Baofengs" from the OPSB, right now we will issue them.
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There is such a thing in these our Internets, which often happens during reposts involuntarily, but that is why it is in demand by manipulators - it can be disguised as a "natural train of thought" and further developed. Let's call it "Shifting Accents".

For example, in the situation with a non-working thermal imaging sight, which I voiced in the spring, and to the final of which I will return, now it’s just not up to it, the emphasis of one of the citers moved to the battery manufacturer, which is completely not to blame for the fact that the batteries are for the sight they bought from him once and then did not update, so the fighters received them from storage, along with the sights, already half-dead, and partly completely dead. Maybe the owner or manager of the plant is still to blame or may be to blame, and this topic is more interesting for the citing than exactly the direct culprit of the situation with batteries, but I wrote about the situation with batteries. And not with the fact that the batteries are worthless initially, but with the fact that they were not serviced in storage and were not replaced after the expiration date. So no matter how good they are,

So, in a situation with an incomprehensible fee for a certain unit of the NM of the LPR, which decided to call itself "Ghost" , I would very much like to prevent a shift in emphasis among those people who are interested in this particular situation, and not some other claims of someone to whom -then.

There is the ONF, on the website of which there is an appeal about the need for help, voiced by military commander Alexander Kotsiuba. If they want to organize help, they have every right to do so.

There is the military commander Alexander Kotsyuba himself, who, perhaps, not for the first time in the Donbass or in the LPR in the role of a media worker, but in the role of a person somehow "tied to humanitarian aid", may be involved for the first time. And he simply does not know many important things and pitfalls along the way. Agree, it is unlikely that Alexander himself came up with the idea that we need "Baofengs" of the UV-82 models. Someone told him this, gave a list of needs, which he voiced.

And here we come to the conclusion that there are people who have decided that their own military unit number, its name and its military achievements will not bring them thermal imagers and radio stations, so you need to call yourself something else. They called themselves "Ghost". And then people knock on me with incomprehensible questions, “Andrey, you wrote that you switched to digital communications a long time ago, so many reports, walkie-talkies, batteries, stacks of repeaters ... and now you are collecting analog baofengs. ?!" And, of course, I am writing a refutation that no, I do not know who announced this collection. Deal with military correspondent Oleksandr Kotsyuba. And now a man, an old acquaintance of mine, is writing to me with the question - and not to put an end to the criminal career of a swindler, so to speak. We have, they say, funds for Kostya Saprykin. And gives a link ... tomaterial in which, referring to me, the authors, yes, shifted the focus to Alexander Kotsyuba . Accidentally or deliberately displaced - the second question. Well, he is unpleasant to them with something, let them sort it out themselves. It's good that an old acquaintance in these our Internets for more than a decade went and asked me if Kostya Saprykin should be kept in mind. Stop, I say, wait. And I sit down to write all this. For what? In order to clarify the situation.

It's not the ONF's fault. And not Alexander Kotsyuba. And the one who turned to them for help, calling himself the "Ghost Battalion", despite the fact that he is not one. I really want to know who it was. First name, last name, military rank, if he still has one.

Since the ONF had not previously been interested in helping Donbass, and only some time after the start of the NWO, this topic began, so to speak, to evoke a lively response from the leadership of this organization, the ONF does not yet have worked out channels and algorithms for work, and a collision with scammers in such a situation - alas, everyday routine. If the ONF and Oleksandr Kotsyuba want to help "Ghost" specifically, it's easy enough to do, just contact the command of a real-life military unit, and they will share a list of endless military needs. They are really endless, so we try to close the most painful points that cost the most blood in battles, and then as it turns out. Throughout all these years of the war, the "Ghost" was assisted by various political forces opposed to Ukrainian Nazism - and the Communists,KTsPN cargo of equipment for communication workshops of the NM of the LPR and DPR from the "Party of Direct Democracy", which was formed by Oleg Artamonov (specifically, very few useful things came in handy from there, most of them were distributed in accordance with the competencies and needs of colleagues in the workshop, so to speak. Distributed more not everything, tomorrow, I hope, I will hand over the last one and report back). If the ONF also wants to join those who want to openly help the fight against Ukrainian Nazism, great. And, of course, you can’t win the war with one battalion, it’s not necessary to help the Ghost, the same reservists in the LPR and in the DPR will be very happy with the same Baofengs, because they often have nothing at all from communication, except for what the "humanitarians" will bring.

So, if you carefully read my original post, it says exactly that. Which, of course, did not stop those who wanted to make war with the ONF or personally with Alexander. And this post probably won't stop them either.
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Since people are already asking, they say they are scammers or not, and what is it at all
. They dropped a linkin one of the chats:There is also a video on which journalist Alexander Kotsyuba, posing against the backdrop of some tanks, tells that begins fundraising "for the Ghost Brigade. As a serviceman of the 14th Territorial Defense Battalion "Ghost", who is directly involved, among other things, in supplying the battalion with radio communications equipment, which the communications equipment was mentioned by the journalist, I have to inform you. 1. The tanks in the hangar, against which the journalist is posing, have nothing to do with the 14th armored personnel carrier of the NM LPR "Phantom".
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Good morning everybody!

Well, it’s not that much of a ‘morning’ any more — especially not in Ukraine: it took me longer than expected to cross-check reports from the Lysychansk area.

AIR/MISSILE WAR

The VKS continues its campaign of ‘high-precision missile strikes’ on Ukraine. AFAIK, it deployed some 200 Kh-22s over the last 15 days to target what even Ukrainians describe as ‘military and critical infrastructure’.

Now, part of the problem is that ‘targeting’ and ‘(actually) hitting’ are two different things. For example: they’ve missed that Ochakov Bridge (already damaged in earlier strikes) with all eight Kh-22s fired at it. That old missile is nifty: prefers to go for the nearby berms. What a surprise, considering its obsolete seeker-head is always searching for targets with highest radar cross sections (and yes, berms have a higher radar cross section than bridges, just for example). Perhaps somebody could forward the message to the Keystone Cops, please? Would help save them from all the surprised facial expressions when confronted with reports about Kh-22s hitting civilians, once again…

….and, you know, the screen-grabs like the two attached below are ‘yet additional no evidence’ that the Russians have hit that shopping mall in Kremenchuk, four days ago…



Concerned about tarnished reputation of their arms, the Keystone Cops were in a hurry to provide another good example for deployment of their high-precision missiles, this morning — when targeting…. sigh… I’ve got no trace of clue what. What is sure is that they have hit at last two residential buildings in Sergeyevka, in the Odessa Oblast.

Mind: the place is something like Ukrainian ‘Riviera’. See: residential buildings and tourist apartments everywhere, no military bases there, no depots for NATO arms (and even if: why ‘hide’ these there?), no bases for foreign mercenaries…. Perhaps there were few Mars People and Biden’s biolabs around….?

BATTLE OF DONBASS

Kharkiv….the frontlines seem to remain where they used to be, two-three days ago, and the Russians are back to striking the city by Iskanders.


Izium….Ukrainians seem to have constructed a pontoon bridge on either the Chepil River or the Siversky Donets River, somewhere in forests west of the town: the Russians are heavily shelling the area for some 5–6 days now, and trying to push north and south of that forest (from around Shchasiyve on Volobuivka and from Kamianka on Andriivka and further west). That said, to me this appears as another big artillery battle: complex, taking very long time without any useful results for either side, and costly.

For how costly: rumour has it, several of Ukrainian M777s deployed (either in the Izium or) in the Kharkiv area have been damaged in recent combat. The Russians claim they’ve been brought to the Kharkiv Transport Plant for repairs.

Sloviansk….word is the Russians have re-newed their offensive on Dolyna and Bohorodichne, but I couldn’t find any kind of details.

Lysychansk… generally, the Russians — and their fans abroad, are announcing, and discussing, an imminent fall (indeed: a wholesale collapse) of Lysychansk. Is all perfectly possible, no doubt. The only problem is: they’re doing so for a full week already. Although, you know, troops of an entire conglomerate of very disparate and battered Ukrainian units are feeling betrayed and abandoned by their officers… Would somebody, please, be so kind and inform Ukrainians about this, too?

Now, perhaps Ukrainians really have only some rearguards left in Lysychansk. No contacts there, so can’t say. And the town is not as densely built-up like Severodonetsk. Thus, at least in theory: much harder to defend. No doubt, the last Ukrainian route out of Lysychansk — the one via Bilohorivka to Siversk — is under constant shelling by the RFA for a full week now. But, to me it does not appear as if the Russians would be assaulting Lysychansk: there are no reports about them even shelling it, any more. Even the Kadyrov’s ‘special forces’ have released several videos from approaches to the town….and usually, they’re nowhere near the frontline. Instead, there are reports about the Russians trying to mine the Ukrainian exit route — via Bilohorivka and Serebianka — with help of cluster artillery ammunition. This sounds like somebody there is trying to cut off those Ukrainians still inside Lysychansk.

Unsurprisingly, it’s the developments north, west and south-west of Lysychansk that are ‘dramatic’.

North of the town, the Russian Spetsnaz or (and more likely) Wagner PMC seems to have crossed the Siversky Donets and taken Pryvillya. Foremost: west of Lysychansk, the Wagner PMC seem to have — after days of bitter fighting — secured Spirne, and then Verkhnokamyanka, i.e. the ruins of the old Lysychansk Refinery. From there, they should have pushed for Zolotarivka, which they claim to have entered as of this morning, and for Verkhnokamyanske, which is a village two kilometres east of Siversk.


Bakhmut….seems, the situation down along the M06 has calmed down a bit, the last two days. The Wagner PMC is back to Klynove, and controlling the highway south of it. But, they didn’t manage to take Semyhirya, the Vuhlerhirska power plant, nor Novoluhanske. That said, no idea why are Ukrainians holding these exposed positions any more: potentially — all are easy to cut off, and only unnecessarily extending the frontline. Guess: probably, it’s the power plant.

SOUTH

In Mariupol, the Russians are ‘busy distributing humanitarian aid’. You know, a single UAZ-452 carrying unpacked loafs of bread is all the dozens of thousands of surviving civilians need — especially since the Russians destroyed 90% of residential buildings to save them from ‘nationalists’ and ‘extremists’…



Kherson….Ukrainians are making a good advance into northern Kherson Oblast. For example, should have liberated Vysokopillya and Potomkyne, perhaps Olhyne, further west, too. Further south, they’re pushing on Klapaya and Mododetske, for example.

NAVAL

The Keystone Cops in Moscow have proudly announced yesterday that they have evacuated their garrison from the Zminyi Island. The RIA added that was an ‘act of goodwill’ (see attachment)…. That sarcast in me cannot but wonder: perhaps it would’ve been a sign of goodwill not to launch an entirely pointless aggression on Ukraine, destroy the eastern half of country, mass-murder civilians and drive 10+ million of Ukrainians out of their homes — first and foremost?


What is certain is that this decision was taken after all the attempts to reinforce the garrison through deployment of Pantsyr air defence systems have failed: these have shot down so many of Ukrainian UAVs, missiles and rockets, and Russians were ah so victorious there, that the Pantsyrs and all the other heavy weapons have all been knocked out over the last week. And, the nifty NATO then supplied BGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles to Ukraine, which are preventing warships of the Russian Navy from approaching even the Mykolaiv area, not to talk about Odessa. Finally, the VKS seems to have lost another Mi-8 helicopter either bringing in reinforcements and/or supplies, or trying to evacuate survivors, too.

Of course, Certified Fools (Kremlin) have also rushed to add that now it’s Ukraine who is to blame for not exporting its own wheat and other crops, and is thus going to be responsible for any kind of famine in Africa and/or Asia. Then, you know, it’s not so that the Russians have attacked Ukraine, mined approaches to the Ukrainian coast, destroyed the Ukrainian Navy, and/or destroyed much of wheat stocked in the port of Mykolaiv: nah, it’s Ukrainians to blame if they can’t start exporting, right away….

Reactions in the Russian (and allied) social media are firm: doesn’t matter, and Zminyi was taken because Russia could and was now abandoned because Russia could, and this was just another of Zelensky’s obsessions, and Russia is going to win….right after sinking all the aircraft carriers of the US Navy by its hypersonic missiles….and, whoever comes to the idea to remind of all the Russian troops killed there, and the families they’ve left behind — is rapidly silenced by a shit-storm.

Makes me wonder if anybody from Moscow, St Petersburg, any of Russians abroad — or Putin’s fans from abroad — would volunteer to rent some motorboat in Odessa, sail out to Zminyi and check if all the Russians have really left the island — and also to count all the improsvised explosive devices they’ve left there, but especially mines floating in the Black Sea?

What mines, you ask? Well, RUMINT has it that one of floating mines deployed by the Russians to block Ukrainian ports went all the way to Mariupol and blew up a Russian Navy’s amphibious assault vessel there… That’s really very bad news for Putin and his shareholders: any idea how much it costs them if there’s a slow-down in their looting of the wreckage of Azovstal? At least 6–7 ships hauling steel from there have been registered over the last month…
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Exchange of prisoners 142 people. That's what they don't want to show you. Reasons for the failure of prisoner exchange with Russia.
For many of those who don't understand Russian:
Press Closed Captions/Subtitles, click on Settings(gear icon), and in Russian auto-generated subtitles choose English as translation.

A little info about the youtube channel:
Volodymyr Zolkin is a Ukrainian YouTuber and activist, living in Kyiv. On his channel, he interviews Russian prisoners of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, in various locations in Ukraine. He has been doing this since 18 March 2022.



The mumbling of prisoners is messing with translation so skip to 24:38. The first 24 minutes is just each prisoner stating his name, rank and how long have they been in captivity.
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A little info about the youtube channel:
Volodymyr Zolkin is a Ukrainian YouTuber and activist, living in Kyiv. On his channel, he interviews Russian prisoners of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, in various locations in Ukraine. He has been doing this since 18 March 2022.
No, He has been doing this since day 1 of the war, thats what he said in the video,
and in fact he was asked to do this as he is journalist, not military, thus not breaching geneva conv.
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Russian cybercriminals demanded the Lithuanian railway company LTG to put pressure on the Lithuanian authorities to resume the transit of goods to the Kaliningrad region.

LTG responded in the same way, the Ukrainian border guards responded to the Russian war ship. (Self proclaimed Russian hacker community, go fuck yourself)
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The New Phase Of The War In Ukraine


Who is actually winning the war in Ukraine has changed almost weekly. Just five months ago, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine looked very different. Putin launched a three-prong nation-wide assault, raining down cruise missiles, surrounding the capital and taking small villages and towns. But very quickly, Ukrainian forces held their defense lines and forced the Russians, who had come unprepared for a long fight, to pull back. Now, the war is a battle of positions, with the Ukrainian forces on the defensive in the Donbas region, trying to slow the Russian advance down. VICE News travels to the Kharkiv and Donbas regions of Eastern Ukraine to gain a clearer understanding of an ever-changing and volatile frontline in one of the world’s most brutal ongoing conflicts.
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