[tootsieflowrslave]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

With anything, sports, videogames, even wars;
people tend to pick sides. There will always be
people who choose the German side in call of duty
multiplayer. Does that make them bad people? No.
They just have a different opinion.
In sports you see a lot of racism. Why? Because
people are often supporting the losing team. And
failure breeds hatred.
I don't hate the nazis. I pity them and their
ideology. I don't think there are nazis on this forum.
I just think some people are misinformed. I still
want to see their opinion. Even failure can give
guidance towards what is good.
Once the fog of war clears and civilians get the
stage, the world will know what happened. There is
a reason why russian news outlets are banned in
most of Europe now.
"Why does Ukraine not get to join Europe now that
they signed a peace treaty with Russia, and what
does that tell you about your own government?"
Is something which the west does not want their
people to see for example.
Does knowing this make me a bad person? Just
because your media told you that after Libya, Iran,
Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and so on, sovereignty
matters now? And that you should hate Russia?
Again I don't think you are nazis or bad people, I
just believe you were misled. I still hope everybody
is safe and doing well even if we disagree!

May I ask where you are from (country)?

EDIT: I too hope you are safe and doing well. Cheers mate!

[richy_dong]

The mighty Russian army is a myth. Old soviet crap. Thought they could take Ukraine in a few days . And Putins generals are afraid to tell him the truth . They wouldn't stand a chance against Nato in a conflict

[duntez]

Originally Posted by richy_dong ↗

The mighty Russian army is a myth. Old soviet crap. Thought they could take Ukraine in a few days . And Putins generals are afraid to tell him the truth . They wouldn't stand a chance against a conflict with Nato

Maybe they could take it in a week or two if they went full force since day one. But then again, US army together with NATO couldn’t take Iraq or Yugoslavia in such a short term, plus neither Iraq or Yugoslavia received such a huge help in weapons and ammunition like Ukraine is receiving right now.

[William May]

Regardless of the propaganda, blah, blah, blah, the Russians started this war. That is all there is to it.
They can end the war at any time. Clear out of Ukraine and leave it along. Pay reparations for all the damage they have done. Get rid of the individuals who started the war.
It's simple.

[ollebjorkvall]

Originally Posted by richy_dong ↗

The mighty Russian army is a myth. Old soviet crap. Thought they could take Ukraine in a few days . And Putins generals are afraid to tell him the truth . They wouldn't stand a chance against a conflict with Nato

These days, the soldiers are all busy swiping Tinder and filming their poses with tanks. The nationalist days are over.

[Mr.NoCredit]

It’s disgusting what our governments do. The think tanks that get all this shit in motion. Keep the people looking up and they forget what’s going on around them. Zero coverage of the freedom convoy that was in Washington. Zero coverage of additional states declaring election fraud. We’re being lied to on an hourly basis. The US government has never been more corrupt than it is now. All these fucking politicians are millionaires. You can’t become a millionaire on a normal salary of $200k per year if you’re an honest politician. None of them are. None of them seem to care about anything but themselves or their bank accounts. The media is painting Russia as the bad guy. Ukraine had some thirty (30) scientific research centers where they’re doing the same shit as the Chinese with viruses. There’s so much more going on behind the scenes that’s never talked about or shared with “the people”. We are lowlifes they care nothing about other than to control us as sheep and shave our coats for the money we make to line their pockets. Fabrication is what goes on to feed us all this shit. Makes me sick to my stomach. Sadly there is no unity among the people any more. We are so divided they’ve pretty much won already. The Ukrainian leader is a very bad man. He’s not some shiny clean individual. This is a direct quote from Candace Owens: “ President Zelensky is a very bad character who is working with globalists against the
interests of his own people. I will not move one inch away from that assessment-ever-no matter how flowery the media depictions
of him are.” End quote.
Russia is not the bad guy here..

[WhiskeyOutpost]

I'm a fan of keeping the Ukraine/Russia opinions confined to this thread. Sick and tired of people shooting their mouth off and fucking up the war media threads Looking at you, special 3 unnamed users

[Faust]

It’s also that people are already invested in the western narrative, especially with wars. In Europe we had some soldier/marine bitches crying on tv because they saw some people die by the hands of the sand people. Well the guys crying survived and were given medals and heralded as heroes. For invading a desert country where the population does not even have access to clean drinking water.

But the poor desert people were the animals and enemies because they hated our freedom so much, that we had to invade them or some shit. And most of the population believed it and supported the war.

Those same masses are now being told Russia is bad, Putin is evil, has no plan, wants to take over Europe, want to kill the free world.

All these bullet points can be repeated by even the most retarded of citizens. Same way they all said: we need to liberate people X their evil dictator threatens the world with Y, everybody will die if we don’t attack and kill Z, and so on.

[textex]

Originally Posted by Mr.NoCredit ↗

The media is painting Russia as the bad guy. Ukraine had some thirty (30) scientific research centers where they’re doing the same shit as the Chinese with viruses. There’s so much more going on behind the scenes that’s never talked about or shared with “the people”.

Russia is the bad guy. They have attacked an innocent country and annexed parts of it. They even shot down a civilian airliner in 2014.

Ukraine, like any other country probably have some labs (as you kind of need that to do research). That they are developing some virus is not proven at all. Hell, it's not even proved that Covid came from China. (If China even did it on purpose, they did a hell of a bad job on it, seeing how they keep locking the country down.)

You might just as well conclude that every country that has a doctor are nazis, as the Doctor probably is Mengele.

[obliterate800]

Originally Posted by ollebjorkvall ↗

When young I believed WWII can´t happen again cause media will report it on the internet instantly preventing it from happening. But as we see the latest era of internet, this insane noise of media is turning into propaganda from all directions and fake, misleading, personally manipulative media is dominating the world now. Whats my point? That we are, or will be as "ignorant" as during WWII cause the media noise just wont be taken seriously deep down the lane. Reading news today is like reading folks opinions or even scams and internet is turning into a sludge of garbage 1000 times worse than the white-trash television era. Oh btw internet and online addiction in my opinion, will set the world on fire. Like the industrial revolution gave birth to the world wars.

Makes sense, tbh. We have access to all this wonderful technology and knowledge, yet we choose to reinforce our ignorance. I also thought that a WW3 wouldn’t be possible but it is a very real threat imo.