[dooshman]

This guy wasn't only a quack, he was a sick mofo.

[Karma]

Originally Posted by calisphere ↗

I do agree with you, however, I was just saying that without these experiments we wouldn't have a lot of the knowledge we have now. I'm a person who would choose a lab animal before a breeder's animal, but I also understand that we've made important strides with experimenting. If there was another way, I'd vote for it without a second thought.

There IS another way but people are too scared to use it, because of course it means using PEOPLE. The jails are full of scum...use them. We are testing for things to make humans live longer, kill human diseases etc, then what better than to test those things on frigging humans. Humans who have waived their human rights by committing awful crimes against others? I see nothing wrong with that myself.

[corpsehands]

Originally Posted by Karma ↗

There IS another way but people are too scared to use it, because of course it means using PEOPLE. The jails are full of scum...use them. We are testing for things to make humans live longer, kill human diseases etc, then what better than to test those things on frigging humans. Humans who have waived their human rights by committing awful crimes against others? I see nothing wrong with that myself.

might help lower crime rates if they people know they may end up on the wrong end of a scientist

[jasondave2000]

This was "pseudo-science". Mengele was a fucked-up sadist who just wanted to torture Jews & legitimize it in his own mind to make himself feel grander & be in charge as a "doctor" & "scientist".

Whilst a lot of current knowledge about hypothermia., etc came from these experiments, most had -0- value then or ever. We also learned from MKUltra that you can't mind control enemy troops with LSD, MDMA, etc. Was it worth that knowledge how they unethically treated their own soldiers, patients, etc?

The worst part of the story is how Mengele & Co. were all invited back to America after the war, given fancy cars, beautiful houses & stupendous salaries (fantastic jobs & work environment) & US citizenship and the American government just "erased" their pasts & let them start afresh. The kids in the photo above died from these "experiments"; they weren't given the chance to start afresh. Absolute insane bullshit, the most forgotten of the lowest points of American history.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by jasondave2000 ↗

This was "pseudo-science". Mengele was a fucked-up sadist who just wanted to torture Jews & legitimize it in his own mind to make himself feel grander & be in charge as a "doctor" & "scientist".

Whilst a lot of current knowledge about hypothermia., etc came from these experiments, most had -0- value then or ever. We also learned from MKUltra that you can't mind control enemy troops with LSD, MDMA, etc. Was it worth that knowledge how they unethically treated their own soldiers, patients, etc?

The worst part of the story is how Mengele & Co. were all invited back to America after the war, given fancy cars, beautiful houses & stupendous salaries (fantastic jobs & work environment) & US citizenship and the American government just "erased" their pasts & let them start afresh. The kids in the photo above died from these "experiments"; they weren't given the chance to start afresh. Absolute insane bullshit, the most forgotten of the lowest points of American history.

Mengele was not taken back to the USA and showered with gifts, he escaped to South America under an assumed name and was listed by the Allies as a War criminal. This is considered common, published knowledge by the civilized western world.

I don't know where you get your made up information, but it is wrong.

The Allies tried and executed plenty on Nazis at the Nuremberg trials.

The ignorance exhibited by posters like you is astonishing.

[banana dick]

oh bullshit, these "experiments" were about nothing more than torture and overpowering other human beings. the whole "research" shit is a terrible attempt at rationalizing it. dr mengele and anyone like him are just sick fucking freaks.

[Jasper00]

Actually, the info was not released until around 30 years ago. Even though records were meticulously kept, in most cases it was not scientifically valid as the "experiments" had no comparison data. Homosexuals, rather than others from internment camps, were used for nearly all cases of hypothermia experimentation which were always fatal. After the info was released some reviewers stated that it should just be destroyed because it was "worthless." Lest we forget...

[Bronte1068]

Interesting pic for sure.

[Sharon]

Originally Posted by cory ↗

fuck animal experments they kill thousands of animals a day just go watch some animal testing videos and tell me thats not right

I agree with them for medical reasons. A woman tried to attack an animal lab here in the UK and she suffered an asthma attack. The drug she was given to save her life (potentially) had been tested on animals and it opened her eyes to how it IS needed on that basis.

Cosmetic testing is what I dislike

[Sharon]

Oh almost forgot, interesting info and pic Kel