[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

That's ridiculous. I guess everyone should have nukes then. It's only fair.

Let me let you in on a secret. The world is a extremely dangerous place. And I would be offended greatly if my country didn't do everything it could secure this country with every advantage it has. And never allow political correctness to leave us at a disadvantage.

The world understands power. In the end that's what's most important.

It has nothing to do with nukes.

The issue is invading/annexing/controlling another nation, and how different nations attempt to justify it.

Personally, I feel that Russia has a much stronger case for its support of Crimea than America had for its invasion of Iraq.

But hey, that's just me

[niknik]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

It has nothing to do with nationality.

It has to do with double standards, and the pretense that someone else is ALWAYS wrong based on where they live.
If you expect someone else to live by a certain set of rules, then you yourself should also follow those same rules...... And not just when it suits your intention.

What's happening in Ukraine isn't a civil war to a point, its a civil war any way you slice it
If that wasn't the case, the people of Crimea would be rising up in arms against Russia...... this isn't the case. In fact, estimates are as high as 50% of Ukrainian soldiers from that region have deserted and gone home.

I said to a point because there probably wouldn't be a civil war at all if Russia wasn't running the plays. Pro Russian Crimeans didn't have 50cal machine guns. Rocket launchers or mortars. And surface to air missiles? Russia does.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

I said to a point because there probably wouldn't be a civil war at all if Russia wasn't running the plays. Pro Russian Crimeans didn't have 50cal machine guns. Rocket launchers or mortars. And surface to air missiles? Russia does.

That's hard to say.

When the Ukrainian President fled office he went to Crimea because the people there support him. Half of the Ukrainian soldiers from that area deserted to join the Crimean forces, and Crimea voted to leave.

You could make the argument that Ukraine would have easily conquered Crimea, but where would it go from there? I can guarantee you Crimea would not just roll over.

Then the whole issue of how the president was deposed comes into play. Ukrainian Constitution clearly outlined the impeachment process, and it wasn't followed.
Legally, going by the Constitution, he is STILL the President of Ukraine.

[niknik]

I seem to remember Russian military surrounding military bases in Crimea. And I'm positive there was a coup of military leadership in Crimea.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

I seem to remember Russian military surrounding military bases in Crimea. And I'm positive there was a coup of military leadership in Crimea.

Go and read.

[niknik]

The US secretary of state, John Kerry, warned that Russia could be expelled from the G8 and face economic sanctions, unless President*Vladimir Putin*halts his “incredible act of aggression”
Reuters

[niknik]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Go and read.

Mmk

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

The US secretary of state, John Kerry, warned that Russia could be expelled from the G8 and face economic sanctions, unless President*Vladimir Putin*halts his “incredible act of aggression”
Reuters

John Kerry is a joke..... I'm sure Putin is scared now

[niknik]

It's not John Kerry's job to be scary. America doesn't appoint Secretary of States based on how intimidating they are. His words are representing the President. And the President's words represent America.

[niknik]

Hey rob. I don't want to jump the gun. But there's reports coming out that a chemical weapons stockpile was found in Iraq buried.