[a175]

Originally Posted by wmbondurant ↗

And and and you can just go on Twitter and find out what Isis is all about .
Hint : not love and tolerance

Of course they aren't. ISIS is a cancer... we're on the same team, brother.

[a175]

Originally Posted by wmbondurant ↗

According to a recent Pew Reaserch Center Poll which surveyed people's opinion of Isis ( favorable , unfavorable , didn't know)
*Just a few*
Nigeria favorable supports Isis polls @ 14%
Malaysia @11%
In Pakistan only 28%of the people had an unfavorable opinion the rest of the 72% didn't know or had a favorable opinion of Isis
"That's a scary large portion of the population of a country with nuclear weapons"
I'm no rocket scientist but just by those numbers I think it's safe to say there was more than just a few extremists happy about killing some Christians .
Also , there was absolutely no security provided for this event . Why not ?
Yes , I think you are being defensive buts that's okay . I'm not vilifying all Muslims . I'm just pointing out the obvious and it saddens me .

That Nigerian support for ISIS includes Christians, which have been estimated to have about 5000 members in Boko Haram alone.
Things aren't always what they seem, my man.
And where are you getting the "no security" from? Inadequate, yes and pretty typical for Pakistan.

[a175]

That's me being fair. You actually underestimated support for ISIS in Africa.
Always check the polls directly, good sir.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...dain-for-isis/

[wmbondurant]

Originally Posted by a175 ↗

That Nigerian support for ISIS includes Christians, which have been estimated to have about 5000 members in Boko Haram alone.
Things aren't always what they seem, my man.
And where are you getting the "no security" from? Inadequate, yes and pretty typical for Pakistan.

You addressed everything but Pakistan .i just put the others in for fair measure . We are talking about Pakistan ."No security" was in more than one story . I'll find it again for you .

[a175]

Originally Posted by wmbondurant ↗

You addressed everything but Pakistan .i just put the others in for fair measure . We are talking about Pakistan ."No security" was in more than one story . I'll find it again for you .

9% of Pakistanis report a favorable view of ISIS. The "don't know" cannot be counted as supportive, otherwise Christians and Buddhists would be alleged to be supportive. Truthfully, there are more stories about ISIS in the western media than in a large part of the Muslim world. They've got their own problems to deal with.

The accounts of the security presence are conflicted in nearly every account. Police, of course, say that it was adequate (which is highly suspect). Eye-witness reports vary from no security to not much security.

Either way, it's a shame what happened to them, but Pakistan is Pakistan and we should expect to see more of this.
This is at least the 64th (I think) terrorist attack in Pakistan. Just another day for them.

[wmbondurant]

Your minimizing and parsing hairs . I'm in no way painting a picture that's not accurate .
You may not be of the mindset to want internalize the fact that there is a ( small in comparison but large on numbers ) part of the general population of Muslims that support ( openly or not ) Isis and other Islamists of varriying extremes .

[wmbondurant]

Let's put this into a box :
Population of Pakistan : 191,715,847 million
so 9-10% of population support Isis that's 19,171,584 million


The population of the state of New York : 19,750,000 million

[a175]

Originally Posted by wmbondurant ↗

Your minimizing and parsing hairs . I'm in no way painting a picture that's not accurate .
You may not be of the mindset to want internalize the fact that there is a ( small in comparison but large on numbers ) part of the general population of Muslims that support ( openly or not ) Isis and other Islamists of varriying extremes .

Oh I agree with you, but it's certainly regional. The same countries that you see support of ISIS show support from both Christians and Muslims... and no Christian in their right mind would support ISIS, right? But in nations that have seen unending wars, plagues, and poverty you shouldn't be surprised when people are drawn to a group that (although barbaric and monstrous) promise fame and fortune to those that have nothing.

I will also say this- notice who isn't included in the poll. No Saudi Arabia. This is the same country that was central to spreading the influence of the ideology, yet they continue to escape accountability.

[wmbondurant]

That's just a lot of people is all I'm saying and again it's safe to say there some complicity .

[wmbondurant]

Originally Posted by a175 ↗

Oh I agree with you, but it's certainly regional. The same countries that you see support of ISIS show support from both Christians and Muslims... and no Christian in their right mind would support ISIS, right? But in nations that have seen unending wars, plagues, and poverty you shouldn't be surprised when people are drawn to a group that (although barbaric and monstrous) promise fame and fortune to those that have nothing.

I will also say this- notice who isn't included in the poll. No Saudi Arabia. This is the same country that was central to spreading the influence of the ideology, yet they continue to escape accountability.

They probably are scared to death not to say they support Isis , ya think
Ya know ,the wimpy white boy in the maximum security prison syndrome ..............