[commondenom]

oooohhh...such a tough guy

[keating]

hope it was his selfabuse wrist that was broken !.

[CuriousCanadian]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

we live in a country where lane splitting is allowed.... one of the reasons we ride bikes is so we don't have to sit in traffic, so yeah, that's one of the reasons..

Sorry, I didn't know it was allowed in your country

I don't agree with it though....too dangerous

[commondenom]

at the speeds in the video it is yeah... and it requires a very high level of focus as you need to be able to predict every possible movement that the cars may make....doors opening in your path, cars switching lanes to move 5 feet ahead in a traffic jam, women closing the gap because they're concentrating on their make up instead of keeping the car straight, taxi driver who think that eveyone else should be behind them so will close the gap deliberately and the n sit with a smug smile as they block your path....it can be hairy but play it right and be smart and slow and it's brilliant.... can knock a 20 minute journey down to 5 minutes in peak times

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by Tantrix ↗

I say "a little faster than he should have" because traffic may have been congested and he may have been going the actual speed limit, but the cars were not. But, yes...it was indeed too fast for the traffic conditions.

However...speeding or not, he probably still wouldn't have been able to stop. Bikes are known for their speed, not their braking abilities.

Basic speed law says that even if you're driving the speed limit you can still be driving too fast for traffic conditions. And since bikes don't stop on a dime, this dumbass paid the price.

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

the rain is the only valid reason you've given for driving a car....

we don't need AC, we have the wind...and as you can see by the thousands of car accident videos on DR cars are statistically no safer than bikes....unless the bike hits a car..

but it's all good... i wouldn't want to ride a bike in the USA either, not as transport....douchebag truck drivers, no lane splitting....sort of defeats the purpose really.

^^^^
The reason why motorists hate cyclists

[Markhamed]

Interesting debate.

For what it's worth, lane-splitting is legal in California and illegal everywhere else in the US.

Based on the amount of head-splitting we see from motorcycle crashes around the world, I don't think lane-splitting is a good idea. In this particular video, it's hard to tell if the driver signaled but the bikes were moving so fast I doubt he would have seen them coming.

Whether it should be legal or not... Eh, probably not. I think it's probably necessary in ridiculously-populated places like Bangkok, otherwise no one would ever get anywhere. But I think the white lines were drawn for a reason, otherwise accidents like the one in this video will happen constantly. (Oh wait, they already do.)

Understanding lane-splitting, though, I think gives us some insight into some of the gory crashes we see on this site!!

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

at the speeds in the video it is yeah... and it requires a very high level of focus as you need to be able to predict every possible movement that the cars may make....doors opening in your path, cars switching lanes to move 5 feet ahead in a traffic jam, women closing the gap because they're concentrating on their make up instead of keeping the car straight, taxi driver who think that eveyone else should be behind them so will close the gap deliberately and the n sit with a smug smile as they block your path....it can be hairy but play it right and be smart and slow and it's brilliant.... can knock a 20 minute journey down to 5 minutes in peak times

I'd bet the guy in this video was thinking everything you just typed...before he headbutted an automobile.

[commondenom]

i think the guy in the video was probably very inexperienced...possibly even drunk.. experienced riders know safe speeds to filter...riding a bike is never free from danger but riding smart minimizes the chance of dying or killing someone else.

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

i think the guy in the video was probably very inexperienced...possibly even drunk.. experienced riders know safe speeds to filter...riding a bike is never free from danger but riding smart minimizes the chance of dying or killing someone else.

That's just my point though...lane splitting in itself is not smart.

Considering the fact that hitting anything even doing 20mph on a bike is exponentially more deadly than hitting something in a car or truck, if you're lane splitting you're pretty much asking to punch your own ticket...all to "knock a 20 minute journey down to 5 minutes in peak times". I bet that guy wishes he had waited the extra 15 minutes.