[cortdb]

Originally Posted by Eddy Haskell ↗

"Only in China"? Don't fool yourself. Some 60,000 Americans die due to their jobs each year. And under Trump and Pence, it is going to become far worse. Can you say "deregulation"?

i can say this. TRUMP TRAIN! CHOO CHOO MOTHER FUCKER

Also over regulation and job unions is why this man in china was killed, otherwise the shit he was making would have been made here, and safely. Regulation is fine, OVER REGULATION is a job killer. Just like Hillary and her proclamation to kill coal. West Virginia and Kentucky sure loved her for that.
Of the 60000 american you speak of, 50000 of those didnt follow current regulations. So more regulations would solve that right? Just like banning firearms and ammunition sales in Chicago has really fixed the murder rate......
You can not and will not ever regulate a human beings thinking and acting for themselves. No matter what asinine law you want to pass. Its not going to solve shit.

[wmbondurant]

No open casket funeral

[dankery]

Almost? lol I can totally see clothes go towards beginning then body at the end being stopped of some bones that are seen swinging around on the machine! Insane shit would love to see pics of it lol

[vagabond]

Ay, caramba!

[-NocturnalPulse-]

Originally Posted by Eddy Haskell ↗

"Only in China"? Don't fool yourself. Some 60,000 Americans die due to their jobs each year. And under Trump and Pence, it is going to become far worse. Can you say "deregulation"?

You must be new here....

[manny2080]

Did he survive though ?

[Eddy Haskell]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

They do it with a certain panache in China though.

Indeed they do. But it is all born of a near total lack of regulation, which is exactly where we are headed. "Thanks," Trump voters!

[wmbondurant]

Could you fucking liberals just stop with "the sky is falling" bullshit get on with your lives . We all had to endure 8 years of the first and last black President.

[Davis916]

I fall to pieces. That is OK. There is a several million people to take his job. Who cares about safety when you have a billion people in your backwards country.

[Eddy Haskell]

Originally Posted by cortdb ↗

I can say this: TRUMP TRAIN! CHOO CHOO, MOTHERFUCKER

(sic)



cortdb: "Also, overregulation and [trade] unions [are] why this man in China was killed." (sic)



Actually, cortdb, what you have been conditioned to view as "overregulation" is anything but overregulation. Rather, regulation of industry is simply that which is necessary to better protect workers and our natural environment - our life support system. The fact that industrial accidents (per 100,000 workers) as well as land, air and water pollution have been significantly reduced since the highly deregulated Gilded Age speaks volumes for the need for very robot regulations.



When you hear Fox “News,” Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc., speak of “job-killing overregulation” it must be recognized that these institutions and individuals are monetarily influenced by the likes of the Koch-brothers-founded Heritage Foundation and the Koch-brothers-founded Americans for Prosperity. Ergo, their “job-killing overregulation” message is merely coded language which actually means “profit-compromising regulations.”



And make no mistake about it, the type of regulations that are directly responsible for worker safety and environmental protection are just exactly what greed-centered individuals the likes of Charles and David Koch have in mind when they promote this “overregulation” pablum. It is simply that they are unable to say so. So they have used their billions to very effectively brainwash working class Republicans into supporting that which is not in their interest to support.



cortdb: "Otherwise, the shit he was making would have been made here, and safely. Regulation is fine. OVERREGULATION is a job killer.”

Well, prior to the mid-1980s, “the shit he was making” was manufactured here and with a high degree of safety. But, with the enormous help of the Reagan administration, U.S. corporations escaped the gains of American workers (relative to safety, pay and environmental protections) and moved their manufacturing capacity offshore where workers are far more easily exploited. So what is it, cortdb, that makes you think that “the shit he was making would have been made here, safely”? Oh yes, that’s right, Donald Trump’s evisceration of regulations will make American manufacturing jobs relatively safe, again. As an attorney who spent some twelve years representing a major American manufacturing firm (until my conscience got the better of me), I find your way of thinking to be quite humorous, cortdb.



cortdb: "Just like Hillary and her proclamation to kill coal. West Virginia and Kentucky sure loved her for that.”



As a Sanders and still later Stein supporter (having been a paid employee of the Sanders campaign), I am by no means a fan of Hillary Clinton. Nonetheless, what Clinton spoke of vis-a-vis the coal industry was our dire need to end the extraction of coal and all other fuel-related extractive industries. But leave it to the highly fettered corporate media to edit and present her words in such a way as to suggest that she simply wished to throw coal miners and their families to the streets. Only the most ignorant and partisan amongst us would believe that Hillary Clinton wanted to do such a thing as that. Try to be a bit more discerning, cortdb.



What she and other progressives have proposed is that we launch a Manhattan Project-like alternative energy program that would transition coal miners into working within the solar, wind and geothermal industries; technologies that are all but completely harmless to the environment and tremendously safer with respect to workers.



cortdb: "Of the 60,000 American [workers] you speak, 50,000 of those didn’t follow current regulations.” (sic)



And you gleaned that statistic from where, cortdb?



When I wrote something to the effect of “60,000 Americans die due to their jobs each year," I was referring to not simply those who are killed at their workplaces, but also to those who die as a result of industry-induced diseases. In point of fact, the majority of workers who suffer industry-related deaths do not die at the job site. They die largely as a result of the carcinogenic and other deadly chemicals that they are exposed to while on the job. It has little to nothing to do with “ignoring safety regulations,” cortdb. But leave it to a typically ill-informed right-winger to assert that it does.



cortdb: "So more regulations would solve that, right?"



Actually, simply enforcing existing regulations (those which are currently and largely ignored) would solve much of it. (I know these things because I once helped a corporation avoid such regulations.)



cortdb: "Just like banning firearms and ammunition sales in Chicago has really fixed the murder rate.”



In reality, one of the reasons behind Chicago’s high rate of gun violence are the extremely weak gun laws in effect within many of the states that surround Illinois - most especially Mike Pence’s Indiana (In essence, Chicagoans rate able to simple drive to one of the copious number of gun shops that operate within a very short distance of the Illinois/Indiana border and make someday gun and ammo purchases to their heart’s content. Now I know that Rush “forgot” to tell you that part, cortdb, but that is the case.)



cortdb: "You can not and will not ever regulate a human beings thinking and acting for themselves. No matter what asinine law you want to pass. Its not going to solve shit.”



Having grown up in Los Angeles during the 1960s, I well-recall the many smog alerts; the half-mile visibility; and the smog-induced soot, coughing and gagging. But, although all of that is still very much a part of life in, say, largely unregulated Beijing, China, we Angelenos no longer endure such things. Why do you suppose that is, cotdb? I’ll save you the bother of a response: it is because of laws/regulations - very stringent regulations, my friend!


So, yes, cortdb, laws do work to make life better. So stop playing the fool. Stop allowing yourself to be used by people who wish to profit from your misery. They are not your friends, and they are laughing at you. Hell, I’m all but certain that I have a lot more money than what you have. Yet still I know that I have nothing in common with the Kochs and people like them - the people who have brainwashed you.