[ali_ihsan21]

Originally Posted by Zambini ↗

Crawl back in your hole, Ali hussain, your odd man empire collapsed 29 October 1923, the rest of the world rejects your religion of hate and violence.

Turks established more empires\states in the history than the number of states in USA today. The empire you called odd is the empire which last longest in whole history. when you were running after cows on horse my ancestors were ruling on 3 different continents !

Ottoman empire last for 700 years and followed by another Turkish state by our own will peacefully fuck knows what will happen to USA a decade later.

Learn some political history.

[Billthegravedigger]

And to add to that Zambini, now Americans have died as a result of the shit going on in Syria. I guess we should sit back and keep our noses out of it huh ? The people saying that shit should think about something, if they were the ones being slaughtered over there, would they want us to stay out of it ? I am guessing no,what do you think about it man ?

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by ali_ihsan21 ↗

Turks established more empires\states in the history than the number of states in USA today. The empire you called odd is the empire which last longest in whole history. when you were running after cows on horse my ancestors were ruling on 3 different continents !

Ottoman empire last for 700 years and followed by another Turkish state by our own will peacefully fuck knows what will happen to USA a decade later.

Learn some political history.

Again, that's old news, we know all about your failed Turkish/oddman states.

Things don't look too good on your home turf, all the Muslim states have suicide bombers and other terrorists killing the civilians everyday, while the Governments kill their share too.

Your failed society is rejected by the rest of the world, you need to stop living in the past.

Why is your oddman state trying to kill off the Kurd like they did the Armenians?

I sure wish The US and the rest of the west would just stay out and let you murdering bastards kill each other off.

[ali_ihsan21]

There are soldiers who respect their enemy when gunfire stop. This view separates us and thats what Im proud of.



Gallipoli battlefields, depicts an unknown Turkish soldier carrying wounded 24-yearold Lieutenant Richard Casey (later to become Lord Casey and Governor-General of Australia, 1967-71) back to the allied trenches in a great act of compassion.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

And to add to that Zambini, now Americans have died as a result of the shit going on in Syria. I guess we should sit back and keep our noses out of it huh ? The people saying that shit should think about something, if they were the ones being slaughtered over there, would they want us to stay out of it ? I am guessing no,what do you think about it man ?

The US is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't.

I seriously think we should pull out of the whole damn region, let the people settle it with their own Governments, I believe we just compound the issue trying to help.

Too much blood and treasure spent trying to help unappreciative bastards like Ali, that come on an English language website while enjoying all the comforts the west has to offer just to piss and moan about how we are the bad guys.

Fuck Them!!!

I've been over there, I wouldn't give you a nickel for the whole damn middle east.

That's what I think, let them rot in their own misery.

[ali_ihsan21]

Dude Turkey's region is called Eurasia, you seriously need a world map first of all

And some other informations about economy and international relations to enlighten your mind if you have any.

The Turkish economy grew by 11% in the first quarter, outstripping China and confirming Turkey as Eurasia's rising tiger. Thursday's official growth figure, compared with the year-earlier period, easily beat market expectations, at a time when many of Turkey's neighbors in the Middle East and Europe struggle with political turmoil and bailouts.

Turkish, Chinese Businessmen Sign Agreements worth $4.3 Billion Wednesday, 22 February 2012 09:42


Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping said on Wednesday that Turkish and Chinese businesspeople signed economy and trade agreements worth 4.3 billion U.S. dollars.

Chinese Vice President Xi participated in the meeting of Turkey-China Economic and Commercial Cooperation Forum in Istanbul.

There have been deep rooted ties between Turkey and China, Xi said.

"Turkey has become one of the most attracting countries in the world," he said.

There has been a remarkable increase in trade volume between the two countries, Chinese vice president said.

Xi said China attached a great interest to Turkey's chemical raw materials and agriculture products such as hazelnut.

Chinese companies undersigned agreements exceeding 10 billion U.S. dollars in regard to the contracting services in Turkey, he said.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by ali_ihsan21 ↗

Dude Turkey's region is called Eurasia, you seriously need a world map first of all

And some other informations about economy and international relations to enlighten your mind if you have any.

The Turkish economy grew by 11% in the first quarter, outstripping China and confirming Turkey as Eurasia's rising tiger. Thursday's official growth figure, compared with the year-earlier period, easily beat market expectations, at a time when many of Turkey's neighbors in the Middle East and Europe struggle with political turmoil and bailouts.

Turkish, Chinese Businessmen Sign Agreements worth $4.3 Billion Wednesday, 22 February 2012 09:42


Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping said on Wednesday that Turkish and Chinese businesspeople signed economy and trade agreements worth 4.3 billion U.S. dollars.

Chinese Vice President Xi participated in the meeting of Turkey-China Economic and Commercial Cooperation Forum in Istanbul.

There have been deep rooted ties between Turkey and China, Xi said.

"Turkey has become one of the most attracting countries in the world," he said.

There has been a remarkable increase in trade volume between the two countries, Chinese vice president said.

Xi said China attached a great interest to Turkey's chemical raw materials and agriculture products such as hazelnut.

Chinese companies undersigned agreements exceeding 10 billion U.S. dollars in regard to the contracting services in Turkey, he said.

Your mental masturbation is quite boring, no one gives a shit about you turks, your economy or who is fucking you now.

Perhaps you and the idiot from Finland can share your wet dreams of the past while the rest of the world focuses on the here and now?

We were discussing Syria, which is commonly considered in the middle east. Many consider Turkey to be in the middle east too, I really don't give a fuck what you want to call it.

[Tyberius]

Just cause your economy grows doesn't means your mentality grows with it.
I've met quite a few Turks in my time and out of 50 i met, maybe 1 was someone worth talking to.
No country that respect religion more than the word of law is a country worth respecting.
That country is more than capable of twisting the religion into something it isn't and using it as an excuse to control masses.
Iraq and Afghanistan are living proofs of that.

Tell me, if someone in Turkey is an atheist how will your society react. Will they accept his decision or will they frown.
When your country becomes one where religion is optional then and only then will i say you moved on and are a modern country.

Islam may not be a religion of hate but it is extreme and leaves very little freedom.
FFS they even derived a law from it. What kind of a messed up country does that. If a woman has sex out of wedlock she is to be stoned to death.

[ali_ihsan21]

Originally Posted by tyberius ↗

Just cause your economy grows doesn't means your mentality grows with it.
I've met quite a few Turks in my time and out of 50 i met, maybe 1 was someone worth talking to.
No country that respect religion more than the word of law is a country worth respecting.
That country is more than capable of twisting the religion into something it isn't and using it as an excuse to control masses.
Iraq and Afghanistan are living proofs of that.

Tell me, if someone in Turkey is an atheist how will your society react. Will they accept his decision or will they frown.
When your country becomes one where religion is optional then and only then will i say you moved on and are a modern country.

Islam may not be a religion of hate but it is extreme and leaves very little freedom.
FFS they even derived a law from it. What kind of a messed up country does that. If a woman has sex out of wedlock she is to be stoned to death.

Its interesting to see someone perceive Turkey that much religious but if you're finding out that result with the 50 people you personally know its quite possible. When I compare Turkey with US what I see is a much more religious country on behalf of US. Instead of comparing a group of people (which must include more than 50 and selected from different regions for a scientific and rational result) you should compare the official practices of the country based on law !

You marry in churchs, we marry in official buildings of municipality. You promise on Bible in court, we promise on our own honour, your legislation process after the elections start with President's promise on Bible, our politicians promise on honesty. I can increase that list. On the wall of our assembly written ' Sovereignty belongs unconditionally to the people. ' on your banknote it says ' In God we trust '

I can freely and comfortably say that Im a non-believer in most of the social environment. Nobody in my family ever goes to mosque even hates religion.

Mind if I ask you, if Turkey is that much religious and belongs to middle east why is she a secular country which there isnt even one sample in there ? How do you explain that ?

[Tyberius]

The difference between your and my religion is that nobody i know is ready to go into a holy war for our God.
Which is why we can freely swear on the Holy Bible.
We know that by doing so we swear to tell the truth, we don't swear to follow his word down to the letter.
And chop peoples heads off in His name. I'm not saying that never happened, what I'm saying is; Christians moved on, muslims live in the middle ages.

Secular country? Bitch please, your religious parties and their interests are being presented and protected by conservatives and you damn well know it.

If Turkey is that much better than the middle east then why did you send supplies to Palestine.