Terror in Israel

[ddav88]

Originally Posted by rob666

So whats the total score for civilian deaths for either side?
Am I mistaken but did Israel not basically flatten a few square kilometers back in 05? How many civilians were killed then?
I don't really think its even relevent if Israel targets civilians or not, they have killed far more and its policys are the direct cause for unmeasurable suffering in occupied lands.
In South Africa it was called Aparthied, what do you call it in Israel?

The target of the killing is extremely relevant. In all civilized societies a mens rea (criminal intent) has to accompany a crime in order for it to be prosecutable. So yes, it makes a big difference.
Obviously the death count is far higher on the Palestinian side and much of that has to do with negligence in Israeli military operations. But Israel has never sanctioned targeting of civilians and Hamas has. That is what separates a sovereign country's military and a terrorist organization.
You are obvious not educated enough about this to formulate an intelligent opinion. So maybe it's time to shut up and listen.

[Morgasm]

Originally Posted by ddav88

The target of the killing is extremely relevant. In all civilized societies a mens rea (criminal intent) has to accompany a crime in order for it to be prosecutable. So yes, it makes a big difference.
Obviously the death count is far higher on the Palestinian side and much of that has to do with negligence in Israeli military operations. But Israel has never sanctioned targeting of civilians and Hamas has. That is what separates a sovereign country's military and a terrorist organization.
You are obvious not educated enough about this to formulate an intelligent opinion. So maybe it's time to shut up and listen.

Umm...what he said.

[bumpsNhumps]

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sincerely john rambo

[BigFoot]

Hate the Music,
Hate the Pictures,
Love your all's Debate,
Have no Opinion on either of it.

However, I do agree with BiscuitBumper (as I find myself oddly doing more of lately). Thanks for the post, hope you didn't make it but if you did you get a C+ for effort! The best part is it is going to fuel some more debate so huzzah for that.

[kaizen_usa]

Originally Posted by BiscuitBumper

How is blowing up a bunch of civilians a "Win" for either side? Humans only live for 70 to 80 years and it seems like most of that time is spent trying to kill each other. At this point in our evolution, Humans are pathetic, barbaric animals. Plain and simple.

Israel got advanced weapons!,Palestinians does not have weapon or it is limited since it's surrounded by Israel and set thick walls around it's borders .So what is the easiest way to make a weapon is to make a bomb from daily use products and blow yourself up since they are limited. yes it is sad but true.!
I don't know if my nation was invaded and i was limited to defense myself i would do the same ,, who wouldn't?

[niknik]

Originally Posted by kaizen_usa

Israel got advanced weapons!,Palestinians does not have weapon or it is limited since it's surrounded by Israel and set thick walls around it's borders .So what is the easiest way to make a weapon is to make a bomb from daily use products and blow yourself up since they are limited. yes it is sad but true.!
I don't know if my nation was invaded and i was limited to defense myself i would do the same ,, who wouldn't?

Israel was the one who was invaded, and is why israel first took control of parts of palistine. The Israelis would gladly live I peace if it was truly offered. Hamas or the plo will not agree to move on and have peace, because they only want to destroy Israel.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by ddav88

The target of the killing is extremely relevant. In all civilized societies a mens rea (criminal intent) has to accompany a crime in order for it to be prosecutable. So yes, it makes a big difference.
Obviously the death count is far higher on the Palestinian side and much of that has to do with negligence in Israeli military operations. But Israel has never sanctioned targeting of civilians and Hamas has. That is what separates a sovereign country's military and a terrorist organization.
You are obvious not educated enough about this to formulate an intelligent opinion. So maybe it's time to shut up and listen.

What seperates a terrorist organization from a freedom fighter? Much like the terror campaign that JEWS waged against the British in British Palestine ( now currently Israel ) , Palestinians are not able to fight on a conventional military playing field. Surely you can see the similarities here.
What Israel sanctions was called Aparthied in South Africa, are you educated enough to understand that?

[ChockFullOfChock]

Originally Posted by niknik

Israel was the one who was invaded, and is why israel first took control of parts of palistine. The Israelis would gladly live I peace if it was truly offered. Hamas or the plo will not agree to move on and have peace, because they only want to destroy Israel.

Good luck to Israel! It's basically an apartheid state with a vicious army.

And no, Israel has never made any serious attempt at peace. They don't do the whole 'compromise' kind of thing.

[Fr33dom]

1 Israel life costs more than 100 Palestine's their life. Palestina is occupied and held in the biggest free space prison on earth since more than 40 years. Fucked up world, zionists are our modern nazis.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik

Israel was the one who was invaded, and is why israel first took control of parts of palistine. The Israelis would gladly live I peace if it was truly offered. Hamas or the plo will not agree to move on and have peace, because they only want to destroy Israel.

Your absolutely right, and Israel has the right to defend itself.
But strategically, that land being occupied has no value other than for expansionism, mainly being pushed by Zionists with religious motivations.
I totally get that Israel should kick the shit out of anybody that attacks it, but at the same time these little strips of land that Israel has no right to is propaganda gold for anti-semites.
IMHO Israel should GTFO occupied land, that WE pay to defend with aid money, then Israels enemys have no excuse whatsoever for doing anything aggressive.
I mean, if we still occupied Japan or Germany, and we were bulldozing their homes to build ours, we'd be having problems too instead of what we have now, which is good relations.