[Biznass]

It was fucked either way.
3 trillion later it was time to go.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Gingerbox ↗

For following Trump’s agreement with the Taliban?

There was no possible way that this wasn’t going to happen. We could have stayed for 200 more years, and spent another 10 trillion, and the same shit would have happened.

Grow up.

You're insane. There were a few ways that would have prevented this.

Mainly, stick to the original mission. But let's be honest, candy ass democrats couldn't handle the original mission.

To be fair, I suppose it's not really the democrat party, but us the American people who pledge allegiance to the parties. So one will always criticize the other, even if the other is doing the right thing.

BTW. The original mission was death. We were going there to kill terrorists and whoever wanted to stand with them, or help them. When we first went in the Northern Alliance had already been at war with Afghanistans Taliban for 5 years. And barely controlled a street corner.

India, Iran, Turkey, Russia, various tribes of Afghanistan and the Pakistan Army and intelligence. Had been basically getting whooped.

The 9-11 happens and America goes to the Northern Alliance and farts real loud and everyone moves out of the way. And the tribes we were working with, because they would be the ones taking over Afghanistan didn't want to kill Taliban and terrorists. They wanted to make a deal with them.

This is how that prison uprising happened at the very beginning of the war. All those in custody were a part of the deal to be sent home. But they really gave themselves up because they had grenades shoved up their asses and were planning to do just what they did.

America was furious that the alliance even wanted to deal with them rather than just kill them. That was our best opportunity, Americans were pissed, they wanted war.

Anyway, America came in after the 5 year war and accomplished it in 2 months. That two months was wasted. It should have been 2 months of killing every single Taliban and terrorist we could find.

But instead it was only kill the ones actively fighting. And capture the ones who aren't.

Most of the Taliban leadership today, had US crosshairs pointed at them years ago. We just didn't take the shot because bunch of liberals crying about killing unarmed '"civilians".

They knew how to play us.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Timoteus ↗

How exactly is it Biden’s fault, Trumptard? If the Afghans aren’t going to fight the Taliban for themselves, even after 20yrs of American money, equipment and training, what’s the point staying there?

In any case, Biden was only following a plan laid out by that disgusting carrot-skinned, wig wearing bag of puss that lost to him.

Biden can't even follow the pen light at the doctor's office. They guy is senile.

Hoe fucking up Bidens ass must one be to believe "there's was no other way " .

There was many different ways to pull out without this. Hell, a really damn good way would be to keep a base in Afghanistan. And warn them if they started slaughtering people, their leaders would be airstriked.

Or not even keep a base. But still airstrikes.

We are carrying out airstrikes right now in Afghanistan anyway. The billions in military equipment we left behind is currently being blown up .

Trump certainly didn't do anything great in Afghanistan. But he also had 100 "journalists" following him around. "Trump stepped on an ant on his was to Marine One, Proof he doesn't care about black people ".

[Timoteus]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Biden can't even follow the pen light at the doctor's office. They guy is senile.

Hoe fucking up Bidens ass must one be to believe "there's was no other way " .

There was many different ways to pull out without this. Hell, a really damn good way would be to keep a base in Afghanistan. And warn them if they started slaughtering people, their leaders would be airstriked.

Or not even keep a base. But still airstrikes.

We are carrying out airstrikes right now in Afghanistan anyway. The billions in military equipment we left behind is currently being blown up .

Trump certainly didn't do anything great in Afghanistan. But he also had 100 "journalists" following him around. "Trump stepped on an ant on his was to Marine One, Proof he doesn't care about black people ".

Wow. I am so HONORED to be in the virtual presence of some armchair warrior who knows so much more than the entire Federal Government. Don’t be THAT guy at the BBQ man.. “HELL yeah Biden shoulda followed MY advice, then we wouldn’t be in this here mess..”

It’s easy to look wise with the benefit of hindsight, but what you either don’t know or are deliberately ignoring is that the majority of US visa holders in Afghanistan DIDN’T WANT to leave in the first few days after Bagram was vacated.. they only started flooding to the airport once the Taliban had reached Kabul.

As for Biden: Reagan was senile.. actually had early Alzheimer’s when he was still in office, but you GOP goons are always real quiet about that. And fuck, I’d rather have a senile Biden than a sociopathic narcissistic compulsively lying rapist in the White House.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Timoteus ↗

Wow. I am so HONORED to be in the virtual presence of some armchair warrior who knows so much more than the entire Federal Government. Don’t be THAT guy at the BBQ man.. “HELL yeah Biden shoulda followed MY advice, then we wouldn’t be in this here mess..”

It’s easy to look wise with the benefit of hindsight, but what you either don’t know or are deliberately ignoring is that the majority of US visa holders in Afghanistan DIDN’T WANT to leave in the first few days after Bagram was vacated.. they only started flooding to the airport once the Taliban had reached Kabul.

As for Biden: Reagan was senile.. actually had early Alzheimer’s when he was still in office, but you GOP goons are always real quiet about that. And fuck, I’d rather have a senile Biden than a sociopathic narcissistic compulsively lying rapist in the White House.

It's funny when manipulated people think they're better informed.

You are deliberately not putting 2 & 2 together. Sure many US visa holders didn't immediately vacate Afghanistan when the withdrawal began. And of course, they did only flood the airport once they had the realization their bodies could very likely be riddled with bullets within days, or even hours.

Hmm. Why didn't they already know that?

Oh ya that's right. Biden administration said this takeover wouldn't happen. Those people were led to believe by Biden that they were in no immediate danger.

And people who were actually paying attention didn't need hindsight. Nor are fooled by this administrations misinformation and down right lies. Because it was reported for months that the Taliban were in violation of the deal made by Trump.

A terrible awful deal, by Trump. You see what I did there? Like in the movie irobot. I just gave away that I'm not programmed to cheer and boo. Based not by the real information and my thoughts and feelings on the reality of situations and issues. But solely based on the political party's orders of what we're to cheer and boo.

This is why when I say Biden has dementia, you immediately deflect and bring up Reagan. Because you've been programmed to defend you're leader.

When it should concern you. And Reagan is not president. He's dead. So what the fuck does it matter? Is that how you see our nation being run? This is why we have 2 bad choices.

I'm not a Trump supporter. He is an idiot. And Biden is a basketcase. You're the problem. You will not only accept shit. You will rub it all over your face and pretend it's gourmet chocolate. Because you aren't strong enough to stand alone. Or you're a coward.

[JayJS]

IMO they were just idiots thinking they can just hitch a ride by grabbing onto a plane just like they do with trains.

Read some of the accounts of US soldiers who trained Afghan soldiers to see just how uneducated and unintelligent these people are. Many locals werent even able to comprehend the concept of counting to three when throwing a grenade, were incapable of basic arithmetic and concept of cover, in addition to being constantly on hashish.

Westerners are projecting their liberal culture and ideology on Afghanistan when they think Afghans value US presence and concept of liberal democracy and human rights, and that entire country is somehow in terror and millions would rather die than face the policies of Taliban.

Reality is that the vast majority of Afghans (except the tiny minority with liberal western education) have no issues with Taliban and are even happy it has taken over. Taliban is the government Afghan people want and deserve. Like in many islamic regimes, 99% of the population wants Sharia law, death penalty for apostasy

Despite the Afghan army outnumbering Taliban 6:1 and being equipped with state of the art equipment, there was no opposition to speak of against Taliban. They never cared, and the entire Afghan army was a sham just to get free money from US taxpayers. Hundreds of thousands of local ''soldiers'' immediately either stood down, surrendered or ran away abroad, intentionally letting Taliban win and seize the high-tech equipment.
Any opposition to Taliban that existed in Afghanistan for the last 20 years was completely created and maintained by occupying western powers, and disappeared the second they left.

Afghans know if get to the west they will be set for life, and get that sweet taxpayer money and not have to work a second more in their life.
They climbed on the plane not because of fear but because of blind, stupid greed.

[niknik]

And for the record. There's not 1 single piece of evidence that proves Reagan had Alzheimer’s. Not a single person who worked in his administration has said that. Not a single opposition party member who worked with him has said that.

There's no video of Reagan seemingly losing track of what he's talking about, or not making sense.

I'm not defending Reagan. Those are just facts.

Now look at Biden. They practically hid him during the campaign. Canceled the debates. No TV interviews. Has one several occasions now since becoming president. Seeming to forget what he's talking about. Forgetting what branch his son served in. Mumbled incoherent things. And mid sentence just stop and seem confused.

Has even said during a press statement, because he doesn't hold press conferences because well, he can't answer questions. That his handlers "get mad at him if he doesn't just read the prepared statement "

This is a guy who's been in politics for 50 years. And he's not allowed to speak freely.

Just watch. Even with your head buried up cnn's ass you will see very soon. Well actually you won't see, but maybe you'll notice. Biden won't be doing anything public. And the media will start to make a big deal of Harris. And after they have built her up they'll announce Biden is stepping down for personal reasons. And deny its because he's senile.

I don't wish for this. I'd much rather Biden be sharp and independent. Rise to the office and be a great president. But I'm afraid he's not even in control of his own administration.

[Timoteus]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

It's funny when manipulated people think they're better informed.

You are deliberately not putting 2 & 2 together. Sure many US visa holders didn't immediately vacate Afghanistan when the withdrawal began. And of course, they did only flood the airport once they had the realization their bodies could very likely be riddled with bullets within days, or even hours.

Hmm. Why didn't they already know that?

Oh ya that's right. Biden administration said this takeover wouldn't happen. Those people were led to believe by Biden that they were in no immediate danger.

And people who were actually paying attention didn't need hindsight. Nor are fooled by this administrations misinformation and down right lies. Because it was reported for months that the Taliban were in violation of the deal made by Trump.

A terrible awful deal, by Trump. You see what I did there? Like in the movie irobot. I just gave away that I'm not programmed to cheer and boo. Based not by the real information and my thoughts and feelings on the reality of situations and issues. But solely based on the political party's orders of what we're to cheer and boo.

This is why when I say Biden has dementia, you immediately deflect and bring up Reagan. Because you've been programmed to defend you're leader.

When it should concern you. And Reagan is not president. He's dead. So what the fuck does it matter? Is that how you see our nation being run? This is why we have 2 bad choices.

I'm not a Trump supporter. He is an idiot. And Biden is a basketcase. You're the problem. You will not only accept shit. You will rub it all over your face and pretend it's gourmet chocolate. Because you aren't strong enough to stand alone. Or you're a coward.

Yep. trumptard. Deny it all you want.. you have the classic symptoms; anyone who tells you what’s actually happening is a deluded ‘manipulated’ sheep, that’s swallowing all the lies.. it’s what QAnon, Flat Earthers, Anti-Vaxxers, 9/11 Truthers all do.

The trouble with conspiracy theories is that the more you believe, the more you find yourself rejecting as lies and ‘fake news’ whatever you’re told by anyone who disagrees with you. It becomes harder and harder to trust reality, and you only accept evidence that supports your beliefs. It’s called selection bias, and it’s the common denominator amongst all right-wingers.

No one predicted the instant collapse of the Afghan Army. No one. Shouting about Biden being senile doesn’t change that.

Was 9/11 President Bush’s fault?
Was the evacuation of Saigon in ‘76 President Ford’s fault?
Was the defeat of France in 5 weeks by Germany in 1940 President Renaud’s fault?
Was Custer’s defeat at Little Big Horn in 1876 President Ulysses Grant’s fault?

D’you see the connection between your tiny angry penis and the lessons of history?

[RUTHIE7]

Get Trump back ASAP!!!!!!

[Timoteus]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

And for the record. There's not 1 single piece of evidence that proves Reagan had Alzheimer’s. Not a single person who worked in his administration has said that. Not a single opposition party member who worked with him has said that.

There's no video of Reagan seemingly losing track of what he's talking about, or not making sense.

I'm not defending Reagan. Those are just facts.

Now look at Biden. They practically hid him during the campaign. Canceled the debates. No TV interviews. Has one several occasions now since becoming president. Seeming to forget what he's talking about. Forgetting what branch his son served in. Mumbled incoherent things. And mid sentence just stop and seem confused.

Has even said during a press statement, because he doesn't hold press conferences because well, he can't answer questions. That his handlers "get mad at him if he doesn't just read the prepared statement "

This is a guy who's been in politics for 50 years. And he's not allowed to speak freely.

Just watch. Even with your head buried up cnn's ass you will see very soon. Well actually you won't see, but maybe you'll notice. Biden won't be doing anything public. And the media will start to make a big deal of Harris. And after they have built her up they'll announce Biden is stepping down for personal reasons. And deny its because he's senile.

I don't wish for this. I'd much rather Biden be sharp and independent. Rise to the office and be a great president. But I'm afraid he's not even in control of his own administration.

Reagan died of Alzheimer’s you total fuckwit.