[Bunnyman1962]

A view from Down Under.

I’m sorry but from my view point your country is officially fucked!

I’m afraid it’s YOUR OWN DOING that’s befallen you!

Don’t give me shit about “states’ rights v Federal rights”.

The Federal Govt is responsible for immigration. If this dumb Aussie is wrong then please correct me!

Guess what , down here in Oz we have a Federal (Democrat Govt) Broken up into 5 states and territory’s ……some of those are Liberal ( republican) as well as Democrat (Labor).

What doesn’t happen here when it comes to immigration is the states and territory’s do not openly defy the Federal Govt .

It’s the Federal Govts policies that define who comes in and stays ….not Minnesota. These pricks advocating public disorder should be tried for treason. Just empty the garbage bins u tools. That’s your role (tongue in cheek!)

These protestors? What in the fuck do they do for work? Blowing their stupid whistles and some bucket mouth turd with a loud hailer?

I blame the shit leaders of Minnesota for the deaths but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Get up to the plate ICE. What an incompetent bunch of untrained, ununiformed, unprofessional fools u r.

No standard uniform, faces covered …..What r u ? Rambos or are u Hammas? What I’ve seen you are a rabble.

U by your actions, your appearance, and your lack of securing a site of operation just feeds the left wing socialist narrative of thuggery.

I don’t blame the mindset because between the State and the Feds narrative YOU are tearing your great nation apart .

Its about time you lot accept that the majority of Yanks who bothered to get off their collective fat arses to vote ….voted for border protection and deportations.

However I’m sure who vote for it voted for a professional body to carry out that mandate.

Sadly I aren’t seeing it

[Faust]

The irony is beyond insane

https://www.propublica.org/article/a...undo-gutierrez

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

Many people have claimed that the shooters were racist pigs, but I guess, again, some apologies are in order

[Faust]

Many are claiming the shooters are LGBT.

[Faust]

My point is that they are probably not fascists because fascists hate non-whites and also they hate LGBTQH+ communities (they could still be bad people, lgb does not exempt you from being evil, nor does being Mexican-American or Hispanican-American)

[DegoLocc]

Latino "White Supremacists"

Actually seen this being spun on Reddit already, lol.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by DegoLocc ↗

Latino "White Supremacists"

Actually seen this being spun on Reddit already, lol.

Do you have a link?

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Do you have a link?

Sure, here's one of literally 100s of threads. This one is smaller, but mentions the white supremacy in Latin America. Not sure if this link will work but here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/...etti_shooting/

Some of these threads are full of progressive leftists acting so racist because these guys are Hispanic. It's so hypocritical and disqusting.

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Do you have a link?

Here's another gem from the Progressive subreddit. Notice all the openly racist comments and all the anti gay comments.

Disqusting hypocrites.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Progressive...z_two_killers/

[wolfie]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

People did protest deportations during the Obama administration, including deportations of people without criminal records. There were sustained immigrant rights protests around 2013 to 2015, family separation cases, workplace raids, and criticism of Obama as the "Deporter in Chief". So the idea that no one objected back then is not accurate. They did, but those protests were more diffuse and largely focused on policy harm rather than specific violent incidents.

What is different now is not simply that non criminals are being deported. That has happened under multiple administrations. The difference is the context and method. Current enforcement has been publicly framed as targeting "rapists, murderers, and drug dealers", yet large scale operations have swept up many people with no criminal record and even U.S. citizens. That disconnect between stated intent and actual outcomes is a major driver of outrage.

More importantly, today’s protests are being catalyzed by lethal force. During the Obama years, protests focused on deportation policy and humanitarian consequences. Today, protests are reacting to federal agents killing civilians, including citizens, and operating armed in public protest spaces. Deaths fundamentally change the nature of public response.

Minnesota became a flashpoint because several high profile incidents occurred there in a short period of time, making the issue immediate, visible, and emotionally charged rather than abstract or statistical.

In the Obama administration about half of the 2.7 million people deported had no criminal record. About 50 people died in detainment during this purge along with an estimated 80 killed when sent back to their countries.

Not much uproar over this most likely due to a popular president in office and the after affects yet from 9-11. Obama changed tactics in his last two years to a more humane method of expulsion.

Trumps second term though is more challenging with the open border policy of the last 4 years. From Congress.gov and estimated 6.7 million have come into the country during Biden's tenure. That along with the polarization of parties has created a mess.

This level between the parties of non cooperation and game of NIGYSOB creates problems where none should exist. During our need for workers once the economy started up again could have been solved with the influx of millions of people crossing the border looking for opportunity. We could have easily set up centers for manufacturers to interview and hire under some type of visa. But no the parties were too busy trying to fuck each other over. No common sense methods are allowed now. We have become a nation of extremists in our government. They sit in their million dollar mansions and watch us fight while people go to the voting polls and blindly vote their party. This will not change until the people insist on term limits. No more careers in politics.

[PreyKill]

The individuals named as the agents that did the murder... they have years of experience with the organization, and that doesn't sound like panicky, trigger-happy fools. The IDs given sounds suspect beause of that.