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12-01-2021, 08:59 PM
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| My Rank: PRIVATE FIRST CLASS Poster Rank:3821 Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 85 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 12 Post(s)
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Re: Man Fatally Shot During Dispute In Texas
He could have planned it out. If you want to get away with murder in Texas, iust do what this guy did. Provoke whoever you want to murder, and if they take the bait, shoot them.
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12-01-2021, 10:09 PM
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| My Rank: LANCE CORPORAL Poster Rank:2559 Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 168 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 67 Post(s)
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Re: Man Fatally Shot During Dispute In Texas
I'm not sure I agree with this being legally-sound self-defense - I need to read up on the specific statutes and case law to gather a more informed opinion - but the absolute asinine arguments used by so many here to condemn it are so ungodly stupid, I almost want to support it just not to be affiliated with a high concentration of ignorant arguments. "He shot an unarmed man." I love it when people conveniently forget that, statistically, 1 in 20 murders in the US is committed by someone who is unarmed. Being unarmed is not equivalent to not being a threat, and "he was unarmed" is an absolutely shit-filled argument. "He wanted to be with his son and got shot for it." Spare me the fucktarded attempt at sanctimony. You're not the only one here with children. Kids or no kids, if you're on someone's property being a hostile, aggressive prick and refusing to leave, you provoked the property owner, on their property where they have no legal (or, arguably, moral) obligation to avoid the confrontation. And your opinion on the property owner's gun-ownership and possession means fuck-all. The fact is that they are legal to possess, and the possession and presence of the gun did not deter said hostile, aggressive prick from being a hostile, aggressive prick. Not only did it not deter the hostile, aggressive prick, but the hostile, aggressive prick then decides to: 1) Make a verbal threat of murder; 2) Become physically violent. "He just wanted to see his kid" is another absolutely shit-filled argument. The real argument that both sides need to consider (at least from a legal standpoint) is "Was there enough time between the physical altercation and the shot, and enough distance between the shooter and the aggressor afterward, that it was not reasonable to perceive the aggressor as an imminent threat?" And, this is where case law and statutory nuance might come into play. Without being familiar with either, I would lean toward this being justified use of self-defense, but I can at least entertain the reasonableness of someone arguing that point. Not as clear-cut as the Rittenhouse event, but I think a prosecution would have a hard time arguing the guy couldn't have reasonably perceived it in the... 0.5-0.75s between shooter being thrown off his own porch and taking the shot. |