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[itchypussy]

Originally Posted by b1gpoppa ↗

We all start out as innocent; we are all faced with choices; we all have 'sliding door' moments every day of our lives - and most of us take the right door most of the time. He may be in jail because he was stealing to feed his family or he may be in jail because he is a murdering raping scumbag who deserves his fate. The point is, for every man in jail for stealing, there is another one walking free and with his head held high because he chose not to steal, he chose to do back breaking work and earn a dollar with honour to feed his family - instead of resorting to crime and putting himself in a position where one day he would be seated against a wall in his underwear waiting for a pack of wolves to plunge their blades into his neck and end up as a 1 minute morality tale on DR.

What a complete pile of shit !

[FuManBoobs]

Originally Posted by b1gpoppa ↗

We all start out as innocent; we are all faced with choices; we all have 'sliding door' moments every day of our lives - and most of us take the right door most of the time. He may be in jail because he was stealing to feed his family or he may be in jail because he is a murdering raping scumbag who deserves his fate. The point is, for every man in jail for stealing, there is another one walking free and with his head held high because he chose not to steal, he chose to do back breaking work and earn a dollar with honour to feed his family - instead of resorting to crime and putting himself in a position where one day he would be seated against a wall in his underwear waiting for a pack of wolves to plunge their blades into his neck and end up as a 1 minute morality tale on DR.

Free will doesn't exist. At the very least there is no good evidence for it. So no, you're wrong. But the fact that you and others like you perpetuate this notion of free will continues to support the idea of people being deserving of certain things or situations, like a girl wearing a short skirt on a night out was asking to be raped, or a smoker deserves cancer.

When you realise the overwhelming evidence against free will, the fact that during the nature vs nurture debate, nobody ever argues for "neither", you will realise the BS you're shoveling. That type of worldview creates never ending crappy situations like we see in this video. It holds us back from progressing and really understanding all the elements that create our behaviours.

Simply saying someone could have made a choice is to ignore those elements and block the discovery of potentially life improving methods for creating healthier environments.

[Martano666]

Originally Posted by Xtatic ↗

But the thing is, in Brazil, you don’t have to be a criminal at all. They seem to kill each other there for no reason at all sometimes. Once popular vacation spots are now ghost towns bc the murder rate is so high. You couldn’t pay me enough money to ever want to go there.

It appears that is how America operates too. You ever see how many people are murdered in America each year? Mass shooting every day, usually for no reason whatsoever. It's really bizarre to watch from my civilized country of Canada.

[Martano666]

Originally Posted by FuManBoobs ↗

Free will doesn't exist. At the very least there is no good evidence for it. So no, you're wrong. But the fact that you and others like you perpetuate this notion of free will continues to support the idea of people being deserving of certain things or situations, like a girl wearing a short skirt on a night out was asking to be raped, or a smoker deserves cancer.

When you realise the overwhelming evidence against free will, the fact that during the nature vs nurture debate, nobody ever argues for "neither", you will realise the BS you're shoveling. That type of worldview creates never ending crappy situations like we see in this video. It holds us back from progressing and really understanding all the elements that create our behaviours.

Simply saying someone could have made a choice is to ignore those elements and block the discovery of potentially life improving methods for creating healthier environments.

This is absolutely true.....but the fucktards in this comment section have no clue who Sam Harris is or what constitutes any sort of deep analysis of any particular situation or individual. I used to try to explain things to them, now I simply mock them. Afterall, you can't fix stupid, and they didn't choose to be that way, inbreeding tends to happen quite often in the southern states.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by b1gpoppa ↗

We all start out as innocent; we are all faced with choices; we all have 'sliding door' moments every day of our lives - and most of us take the right door most of the time. He may be in jail because he was stealing to feed his family or he may be in jail because he is a murdering raping scumbag who deserves his fate. The point is, for every man in jail for stealing, there is another one walking free and with his head held high because he chose not to steal, he chose to do back breaking work and earn a dollar with honour to feed his family - instead of resorting to crime and putting himself in a position where one day he would be seated against a wall in his underwear waiting for a pack of wolves to plunge their blades into his neck and end up as a 1 minute morality tale on DR.

There are only a handful of crimes one could commit that would make such abuse and punishment acceptable.

Most likely, the guy being stabbed to death in this video crime was being extremely poor. If you're from America, or many other Western nations, unless you have tried to educate yourself, you have no idea what being poor really is.

Being poor in America is laughable really. compared to being poor in Brazil, or a hundred other nations where being poor is a life that truly is life and death.

[b1gpoppa]

So easily trolled ........ ?? Ain't I a stinker !!

[b1gpoppa]

Originally Posted by slimjim77 ↗

Ironically we have sliding door moments when online... Do I watch the gore video and try to moralise the video in some misguided attempt to offset the guilt I feel after watching someone get snuffed for my entertainment... Or do I watch it, have a wank and say nothing....

At least you ain't a wanker.

Wrong. Twice a day, and thrice on Sunday ! (I try to get another one in when the Lord is watching )

[Xtatic]

Originally Posted by b1gpoppa ↗

I was having a discussion about this the other day with somebody, so just let me ask you out of curiousity Xtatic - from all the abominable killings we have watched over the years on DR, which of these 3 "groups" do you think is emerging as the most brutal ..... 1. the ISIS/Middle East groups; 2. the mexican drug cartel groups; or 3. the central/south american hood rats ? I used to think ISIS had a lock on brutality, but some of the shit I see coming out of street scum in the Favela's feels like it is pulling ahead. Thoughts ?

It’s hard to answer that question. I agree, 2-4 years ago, every other post was something about ISIS, now most of the stuff posted here is with the drug cartels and Brazil. That’s by no means saying that stuff just as bad or worse doesn’t happen in the US or say London or Paris, but those videos are just harder to come by where the buckets from Mexico and Brazil are just overflowing. I don’t think there’s a good answer to your question.

[b1gpoppa]

Originally Posted by Xtatic ↗

It’s hard to answer that question. I agree, 2-4 years ago, every other post was something about ISIS, now most of the stuff posted here is with the drug cartels and Brazil. That’s by no means saying that stuff just as bad or worse doesn’t happen in the US or say London or Paris, but those videos are just harder to come by where the buckets from Mexico and Brazil are just overflowing. I don’t think there’s a good answer to your question.

Thanks for the reply Xtatic, and I think there is validity to your 'primacy and recency' idea - and maybe if I went back and watched a batch of ISIS footage their boogeyman status would surge in my mind again. I just feel like a lot of the killing that goes on down Central & South America, seems to be for such "small fry" shit - the brutality (to the extent it can ever be justified) seems to be way out of proportion as retribution for what the reported/alleged trangressions of the victim. Whereas the ISIS ratbags are so driven by religious zealotry that they can hide behind the deluded rationale that "Allah orders me to do this" - literally saying to themselves God orders me to do this - so it's OK.
Anyway, I'll leave space for someone to now pop up again and tell me how philosophising about this shit is somehow incongruent with a morbid desire to sit here and watch it.