[murofhsirgo]

Some illegals are still paid under the table, no?

[Endlosung]

this scene is like the story on the end of ORANGE IS NEW BLACK

[rrrp]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

You're utterly fucking ridiculous. Undocumented workers ('illegals') -literally- pay BILLIONS of dollars every year in taxes and into social security, for which they will receive very little benefit.


The fact that about a third of the threads in this section constantly get derailed into impromptu Trump rallies is a large part of the reason why I rarely bother to post content here anymore.

Y'all can't even just kick back and enjoy looking at some dead people without crying over the immigrants, the blacks, and the trans.

Oh please....get a fucking clue. Illegals are NOT paying billions in taxes and SS. One of the biggest benefits to employers for hiring illegals and paying them off the books is not paying Social Security, FICA, Medicare, state taxes, or anything else on them, not to mention paying often less than minimum wage. And that hurts everyone who is a legal citizen. But you clearly don't care, especially about working class Americans. Well thanks for letting the world know just who and what you really are.

[FavaBeans]

Wth???

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by rrrp ↗

Oh please....get a fucking clue. Illegals are NOT paying billions in taxes and SS. One of the biggest benefits to employers for hiring illegals and paying them off the books is not paying Social Security, FICA, Medicare, state taxes, or anything else on them, not to mention paying often less than minimum wage. And that hurts everyone who is a legal citizen. But you clearly don't care, especially about working class Americans. Well thanks for letting the world know just who and what you really are.

Do your fucking research. The data is available, codified, and well-documented. Less than 10 minutes of digging will get you enough data to realize how little you actually know or understand about the concept. I've got anecdotal evidence in excess of that due to working with a LOT of construction companies, but there's more than enough data publicly available that you don't even need my first-hand accounts of the fact that more than 50% of illegal immigrants pay FAR FAR FAR fucking more into taxes in this country than they will ever use.

Since you're clearly too fucking lazy to do anything but parrot FOX news, here are some starters for you:

First off, look into the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy.

Second, check out published findings vetted by the Congressional Budget Office.

Thirdly, check out the IRS's own data on how many tax returns are filed without social security numbers.

Fourthly, check out the SSA's own actuary statements on the subject.

God forbid you do even a modicum of research before you fire your trap off about bullshit well outside your fucking paygrade to understand. But now I've made it easy for you. You have no excuse to be ignorant at this point, aside from your own laziness. Though given how little you've contributed to this site in the 9 years you've been leeching content from us, that is likely excuse enough.

Go back to building your wall. That'll solve everything.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by murofhsirgo ↗

Some illegals are still paid under the table, no?

Some, sure. But a whole shitload of them file tax returns. Almost all credible sources indicate well more than half.

[kasapin]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

You're utterly fucking ridiculous. Undocumented workers ('illegals') -literally- pay BILLIONS of dollars every year in taxes and into social security, for which they will receive very little benefit.

You are so stupid sometimes... illegals work for cash as they can't be legally employed..... thus pay little to no taxes u dufus.

[Oswald2001]

You'll notice the problem with Liberals, they just make up sh*t and then pretend to believe it.

Like professional 'wrestlers'.

And their peanut gallery pretends to 'believe' it too.

But they are only PRETENDING....which is a polite way of saying what it really is. LYING.

It's all 'real'. Nothing FAKE at all.

Oh no.

Illegals are a net massive drain on this country and their destructive invasion is just another way the Deep State is trying to OVERWHELM and COLLAPSE the US the same way as they are doing in Europe.


Surely, everyone is aware of the fact that Europe is being destroyed in the same way as is the US.


And everybody knows it.



Even the Liberal Liars.

The reason the Liberal Liars pretend to believe their own BS is because they hate the US and want to see it destroyed.





"Fundamentally Transform America..."

- Bathroom Barry

- Deep State Barry

- Bathhouse Barry

- Secret Police/Surveillance State Barry aka Imam Hussein

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

You are so stupid sometimes... illegals work for cash as they can't be legally employed..... thus pay little to no taxes u dufus.

The published data says otherwise. Personal experience says otherwise.

Far fewer than half of 'illegals' work for cash under the table anymore. Paying cash under the table puts the employer at risk for tax fraud. Further, they can't deduct it and thus have to pay the full wage out of pocket. Far easier to 1099 or even W-2 them. Saves money, saves hassle. You think the IRS cares? IRS doesn't report to ICE. SSA doesn't report to ICE. They just channel the tax dollars into their programs and call it a day.

Employers are significantly more likely to get busted and audited for tax fraud by paying cash under the table than they are to get raided by ICE for employing illegals on 1099s. The IRS actually pursues tax fraud.

Undocumented workers don't get outed as illegals until they show up in the welfare line and ask for handouts, which is why they rarely fucking do so. They're too scared. But I can fucking assure you, both first and second hand, that our government is MORE than happy to take their money.

Clearly, there's no point in this discussion, however. The issue has been extensively researched. You're too fucking ignorant to absorb it. I outlined a series of steps in my above post to let you find the data yourself. Are you blind or just simple? The numbers are NOT HARD TO FIND. Or just ask your fucking accountant. They likely understand the issue far better than you do. You ever driven by an H&R Block and seen a sign out front that advertised FREE ITINs? The fuck do you think that sign is for? You? Me? It's for fucking illegals without valid SSNs. Because they file and pay their taxes, genius. H&R Block knows it too, because they often pay them to do the filing.

You slack-jawed fucks get bent over by corporations day in and day out, but you're still more interested in blaming dirt-poor, undocumented roofers and bricklayers for your myriad woes. Less than 1% of the population hoards 99% of the wealth, but it's the dishwasher at El Cazador who's got you worried? Fucking rubes. You deserve everything you get.

[murofhsirgo]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

The data says otherwise. Experience says otherwise.

Illegals rarely work for cash under the table anymore. Paying cash under the table puts the employer at risk for tax fraud. Further, they can't deduct it and thus have to pay the full wage out of pocket. Far easier to 1099 or even W-2 them. Saves money, saves hassle. You think the IRS cares? IRS doesn't report to ICE. SSA doesn't report to ICE. They just channel the tax dollars into their programs and call it a day.

Employers are significantly more likely to get busted and audited for tax fraud by paying cash under the table than they are to get raided by ICE for employing illegals on 1099s. The IRS actually pursues tax fraud.

Undocumented workers don't get outed as illegals until they show up in the welfare line and ask for handouts, which is why they rarely fucking do so. They're too scared. But I can fucking assure you, both first and second hand, that our government is MORE than happy to take their money.

Clearly, there's no point in this discussion, however. The issue has been extensively researched. You're too fucking ignorant to absorb it. I outlined a series of steps in my above post to let you find the data yourself. Are you blind or just simple? The numbers are NOT HARD TO FIND. Or just ask your fucking accountant. They likely understand the issue far better than you do. You ever driven by an H&R Block and seen a sign out front that advertised FREE ITINS? The fuck do you think that sign is for? You? Me? It's for fucking illegals without valid SSNs. Because they file and pay their taxes, genius. H&R Block knows it too, because they often pay them to do the filing.

You slack-jawed fucks get bent over by corporations day in and day out, but you're still more interested in blaming dirt-poor, undocumented roofers and bricklayers for your myriad woes. Less than 1% of the population hoards 99% of the wealth, but it's the dishwasher at El Cazador who's got you worried? Fucking rubes. You deserve everything you get.

Breathe dude. I made an observation based on what I’ve seen and understand to be true as well. Not blaming anyone for anything