[gatagato]

Originally Posted by Blu ↗

So larger caliber handgun then? That's a hell of a hole.

Yes, but not always of course: more than on the caliber it depends by the type of contact (loose or tight): in a tight contact shot, some stuff (gases, soot, unburned gunpowder, fragments etc) is discharged and injected straight into the wound: if the tissue where the tight contact shot occurs is thin or overlays a bone, then the skin burns, and since it is forced to expand, it often rips in a radial pattern away from the center, the more are irregular the amounts of materials, the more will be irregular the shape of the wound. In a loose contact shot, since the deposit of materials is no longer subcutaneous, it generates the so called Tattooing’, which is made by the same materials but gases, which obviously dissipate.
Forgot to say: stellar shaped entrance wounds can also be the result of a distant-range, high-velocity shot, but in that case you'll see only lacerations due to the hi-speed impact, with absence of marks indicating both hight temperatures and substances of the one mentioned before. Also some exit wounds could be stellar shaped, but in this case the wound is almost always characterized by the absence of a central round defect, and always by the lack of circumferential marginal abrasions.

[kellyhound]

nasty hole

[Airbornemama]

Jesus....I need glasses! I thought the title read BABY with shotgun blast to back!!

[Billthegravedigger]

I buried a guy that shot and killed his estranged wife, then went to his brother's house, got his 12. gauge and went to a tool shed, put it against his left side ribcage and pulled the trigger.

I could litterally put most of my fist into him. We had to pack gauze into that crater, and lots of them. His entire left side ribs and other bones were shattered, and he looked like jello, litterally.

We put plastic pieces under the back part of the head, and under the triceps to pose them for viewing later. It gives a general relaxed pose for most bodies, but not his. The one under his right tricep, and under the back of his head looked normal, but the left side was destroyed, and we had to result to other methods.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

Yes, but not always of course: more than on the caliber it depends by the type of contact (loose or tight): in a tight contact shot, some stuff (gases, soot, unburned gunpowder, fragments etc) is discharged and injected straight into the wound: if the tissue where the tight contact shot occurs is thin or overlays a bone, then the skin burns, and since it is forced to expand, it often rips in a radial pattern away from the center, the more are irregular the amounts of materials, the more will be irregular the shape of the wound. In a loose contact shot, since the deposit of materials is no longer subcutaneous, it generates the so called Tattooing’, which is made by the same materials but gases, which obviously dissipate.
Forgot to say: stellar shaped entrance wounds can also be the result of a distant-range, high-velocity shot, but in that case you'll see only lacerations due to the hi-speed impact, with absence of marks indicating both hight temperatures and substances of the one mentioned before. Also some exit wounds could be stellar shaped, but in this case the wound is almost always characterized by the absence of a central round defect, and always by the lack of circumferential marginal abrasions.

Very true. Some people shot with a 7.65 X 39 mm have some rather strange looking wounds. When it hits and starts to topple through the body, it can and will do massive damage.

Some people don't believe it when you tell them what they were shot with, they think it always a much bigger calibur.

[elizajane]

When did a shoulder become a neck ya nob?

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by elizajane ↗

When did a shoulder become a neck ya nob?

Do huh ?

[Airbornemama]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

I buried a guy that shot and killed his estranged wife, then went to his brother's house, got his 12. gauge and went to a tool shed, put it against his left side ribcage and pulled the trigger.

I could litterally put most of my fist into him. We had to pack gauze into that crater, and lots of them. His entire left side ribs and other bones were shattered, and he looked like jello, litterally.

We put plastic pieces under the back part of the head, and under the triceps to pose them for viewing later. It gives a general relaxed pose for most bodies, but not his. The one under his right tricep, and under the back of his head looked normal, but the left side was destroyed, and we had to result to other methods.

You mean the family STILL wanted an open casket viewing even though the poor guy didn't have much left on one side of him??? I feel really bad for them, but c'mon, you would have to know somehow that's gonna be more traumatizing than A closed casket would have been!!

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Softballmama13 ↗

You mean the family STILL wanted an open casket viewing even though the poor guy didn't have much left on one side of him??? I feel really bad for them, but c'mon, you would have to know somehow that's gonna be more traumatizing than A closed casket would have been!!

There was plenty left of him, it was his bones that were really messed up. We used some aluminum rods and shaped them to put under him, and that pretty well got him in the right pose.

By looking at him with his clothes on, he looked pretty well normal. Here is a picture showing the plastic pieces we put under their heads, the one under his head and under his right tricep looked normal, but where all of his bones were broken from the shotgun pellets, his left side did not want to take shape. That is why we had to resort to other measures. In the other picture wich is shitty by the way, I tried to give an idea of how the shotgun pellets radiated throughout his body, and show why his ribs, collarbone, and most of his spine as well were destroyed.

[wolfie]

Here is my two cents. Wound is as described. I'm guessing 12 guage slug. It was a contact wound. I'm think it was fatal.