[nat906]

as for suffering theirs was two fold .one from within and secondly German.stop listening to propaganda and look harder at the information given up as factual .

[nat906]

Originally Posted by nat906 ↗

as for suffering theirs was two fold .one from within and secondly German.stop listening to propaganda and look harder at the information given up as factual .

of course im referring to Russia's suffering during ww2.

[Spiritual]

A lot of it was Nazi propaganda but some of it was true. The Germans were so terrified of being raped by the Russians that toward the end of the war people were committing mass suicide. My question is, if they were so scared of the Russians then why did Germany even fuck with them to begin with. They stood no chance at all.

[Zsazsa]

The estimate is that the Red Army raped 2 million women including Russian and Polish women liberated from Concentration Camps who were still ill, diseased, filthy, and in their ragged prison uniforms. Women and girls from 7-70 were raped. A seven-year-old is NOT a Nazi. Stalin was quoted as saying that it was all right that the soldiers had a little fun. Thousands of women died. There were thousands of STD cases, botched abortions, and abandoned babies. It was the worst mass rape in history.

[imi]

Originally Posted by Spiritual ↗

A lot of it was Nazi propaganda but some of it was true. The Germans were so terrified of being raped by the Russians that toward the end of the war people were committing mass suicide. My question is, if they were so scared of the Russians then why did Germany even fuck with them to begin with. They stood no chance at all.

Facts about the Second World War on the Eastern Front a little bit unclear
Stalin attacked Finland in the north and east Romania
Germany helped by the Finns and was in alliance with Romania
Hitler, believed the Soviet Finnish and Romanian military operations against the action of a slow encirclement of Germany and therefore was Hitler attacked Russia
They were armed fighting a fire in the German and Russian border,Russian planes sometimes usually invading the German territories, and the Russians were placed a large number of army in certain border points a month before the outbreak of war of Barbarossa
The fact that Stalin really wanted to attack later Germany this is remains a mystery, because Hitler attacked as earlier the Soviet Union

Otherwise, Dec 11, 1941 if not develop the western front against the Germans against America and not separate the german army, I think in late 1943 the Germans win the war against Russia:
Just only 400 kilometers (248 miles) separated the German troops from Moscow, when the offensive halted and turned defensive warfare
The germans was too much to fight against east the Russians,on the west and south with the Americans and the British

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WW2 rape shame of Russia's Red Army: Attacks on 2MILLION victims are secret Putin wants to hide

21:30, 7 Aug 2015
Updated 09:13, 8 Aug 2015
By Allan Hall , Rod McPhee

A Soviet war correspondent said: “The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to 80. It was an army of rapists”

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Terror troops: Russians fly the flag in a broken Berlin

When the Red Army advanced through eastern Germany in the early months of 1945, they were finally beating the Nazis.

They drove the enemy before them, liberated concentration camps and restored the pride of a motherland *devastated by Adolf Hitler’s forces.

But, in one of the most horrifying *chapters of modern warfare, those same soldiers raped approximately two million German women.

Natalya Gesse, a Soviet war correspondent, said: “The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to 80. It was an army of rapists.”

A decade ago this shame of the Red Army was highlighted by British historian Antony Beevor in his book Berlin: The Downfall 1945.

Russia was not impressed by his tarnishing of this golden moment in their history. And ow they are banning Beevor’s book, alongside titles by fellow British historian Sir John Keegan.

Edward Moss Author Antony Beevor
Historian: Antony Beevor highlighted horror

Schools and colleges in the Ural region of Sverdlovsk will be stopped from giving students or teachers access to the books.

During the Second World War, the Soviet Union suffered like no other country, with as many as 25 million people killed by military action, famine and disease.

They suffered terribly when the Germans invaded in 1941, both sides committing atrocities. The Nazis deliberately starved to death millions of prisoners of war and raped *thousands of women.

So when the five million-strong Red Army swept across Europe, vengeance was in their hearts. German troops were annihilated and the country’s women punished by mass rapes.

Only last year, Margot Woelk, who was one of Hitler’s food tasters at his Wolf’s Lair HQ, described the ordeal she suffered at the hands of the Red Army in the final days of the conflict.

Eyevine Margot Woelk
Victim: Margot Woelk is haunted

Now 98, and her eyes misty with tears, she said: “If I knew then what was to follow in Berlin, I’d probably have killed myself.

“I was sheltering in an air raid shelter when they came for me. They held me for 14 days and nights and raped me constantly, one after another.

"They were drunk, dirty and smelled of damp hay and the farmyard. The first one who took me beat because I resisted. I didn’t resist after that.

“They gave me liquor and I drank it to blot out the memory of what happened. I remember hearing terrible high-pitched screams as I was violated and I knew it was the cries of other women having done to them what they were doing to me.

“After they finished with me I was never able to conceive. My husband and I wanted children so much but those pigs destroyed my insides.

"I wanted to die. Thank God I didn’t become pregnant, but I knew many who did. Many died from abortions they performed on themselves with coat hangers, screwdrivers. It was a time of hell.

“I later learned that the men who were doing this were not the elite first wave of combat troops that took Berlin, but the vast army of conscripts from the *backwaters of Russia – people who had never seen a flushing toilet, knives and forks or running water. They were primitives.”

[Davis916]

As far as I am concerned, the Russian and German troops were guilty of horrific behavior. There are accounts of bad actions for both sides of the war. War is hell.

[paa90]

Russian mass rapes is a myth. No doubt there were many cases of rapes from both side but mass rapes were simply impossible. First, the Russian soldiers were mostly hungry and tired to death. Most of them were not very young (since the youngsters died in massacres of 41-42). Try to rape anyone and you ll find it's not so easy even for a healthy horny american. In that time they could hardly do it technically. Secondly, they were scared. The Soviet Army had a system of mutual spying. A lot of people were executed for stealing a piece of bread. With that system of discipline mass anything was completely inconceivable. So that 2 million raped in Germany is from the same reality where every american woman is sexually abused.

[LadyCPlum]

Originally Posted by haribo78 ↗

Hope US-people one day have to pay the price for the US-caused misery in many countries, too.

Fuck the fuck off.

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