[souris]

so many misinformed comments here.

[tecumseh35]

There are a lot of Germans today, with Russian blood pumping through their veins.

[jimpa99]

Just propaganda.

[Vopo]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

The Nazis caused 100% of the misery they experienced and richly deserved every bit of it.

No tears for the Nazis.

Yes, all the children that couldn't even talk when Hitler came to power were fervent nazis. Hell the kids probably killed all the jews.

[northernlights]

Another aspect of this zealous rape campaign was that it was 100% supported by Stalin and the unofficial directive of it may have came directly from the Kremlin. When the Germans invaded Russia it was ordered that the russians be treated with the upmost in barbarism as in his mind they were not even human beings. While rape was not the Germans main forte, destruction of property and loss of life was. And the they had the eissengruppen squads that followed the armies and then rounded up all of the russian jews and killed them.

[haribo78]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

The Nazis caused 100% of the misery they experienced and richly deserved every bit of it.

No tears for the Nazis.

Hope US-people one day have to pay the price for the US-caused misery in many countries, too.

[Berserk]

Originally Posted by Necrosis ↗

Well... As General Patton said:

"The difficulty in understanding the Russians is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk. "

As far as i am concerned, he was right.

Concerning the Russian rape part, the Americans neighter the British troops were inocent.
They were behaving as beasts too..
Might be not as many cases as with the Russian troops but still alot.
What also counts is that the Western leaders did more effort to keep it quiet while the Russians didn't care to cover anything up.

The Russian population had suffered as well much more under Nazi occupation.

So did the French btw in early war times. As revenge for causing Germany loosing WW1..

I have a few old books at home with heartbreaking witness reports about the french occupation.
Can look them up and translate a few for this topic.

[records1]

Originally Posted by haribo78 ↗

Hope US-people one day have to pay the price for the US-caused misery in many countries, too.

Go to hell.

[northernlights]

In a recently published book by the Professor of Modern History at Cambridge, Richard Evans, a young Russian officer is quoted recalling how when his unit overtook a column of fleeing German refugees: 'Women, mothers and their children lie to the right and left along the route, and in front of each of them stands a raucous armada of men with their trousers down.

The women, who are bleeding or losing consciousness, get shoved to one side, and our men shoot the ones who try to save their children.'

A group of 'grinning' officers ensured that 'every soldier without exception would take part'.

Evans records: 'Rape was often accompanied by torture and mutilation and frequently ends in the victim being shot or bludgeoned to death. The raging violence was undiscriminating.'

The insistence on the men watching the rapes was deliberate policy, intended 'to underline the humiliation'.

[northernlights]

The Red Army’s Rape of Gemany
Thomas Goodrich
October 25, 2014





Traumatic as first encounters were, when the [Soviet] shock troops moved off many Germans would concur that the experience had not been as bad as feared. While rapes had occurred and while many German men of military age had been marched east or shot on the spot, the front line soldier was more concerned with fighting and survival than with loot, rape and revenge. Not so with those who followed. In numerous instances, before Red combat officers and men pushed on they turned to the helpless civilians with stone-like faces:

“The Mongols are coming…. Very bad men. You go quick. Go quick.”

Composed largely of Mongols, Kulaks, Kazakhs, Kalmuks, and other Asians, as well as convicts and Jewish commissars, these men who formed the second wave of troops were regarded, even by their own comrades, as utterly merciless. Terrified by the news, many Germans did attempt to flee and move in the wake of the first Soviet wave. Most, however, found themselves trapped and could do little more than hide young girls and once again pray that their worst fears were unfounded. After a wait of sometimes days, but normally only hours, the dreaded second wave arrived. There were no preliminaries. Unlike storm troops, who cautiously entered towns and villages and slipped nervously from door to door, the rear echelons burst noisily into communities atop trucks, tanks or peasant carts crammed high with loot. Often wildly drunk, many wore a bizarre array of stolen clothes and gaudy jewelry. Adding to the chaos were herds of bellowing cattle and sheep.

“It was almost like a scene from the Middle Ages—a migration, no less,” said one stunned observer.
Soon after the “carnival columns” halted in a German town, hell on earth was unleashed. “It seemed as though the devil himself had come. . . ,” a witness from Silesia wrote. “The ‘Mongol barbarism of the Asiatic plains’ had come not in a propaganda phrase but in the flesh.”