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12-01-2015, 03:47 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
Whether or not OJ killed Ron and Nicole is irrelevant. Let's say for the sake of argument that you are right in your suppositions that: 1.) His confession was legit and un-coerced. 2.) He had a fair trial which included an impartial jury of his peers and competent representation. 3.) The jury considered all of the evidence and mitigating factors and found him guilty. 4.) He was lawfully sentenced to die. All of the above Still doesn't justify the mob being the ones to execute him and to do it in such a cruel fashion. The Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishments and it's my opinion that this barbaric action meets the above 2 criteria. Look I understand being angry and pissed. I get wanting make sure a guilty person pays the price, but is this really what we want to be? I think we are better than that. Anyway, my .02, probably not even worth that much. |
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12-01-2015, 05:29 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
I would say killing anyone, any fashion is cruel and unusual since I rarely see it.
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12-01-2015, 10:35 PM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
What this mob did was murder. Justify it, condone it, defend it. If it makes you feel better more power to you.
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12-02-2015, 03:19 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
Isn't execution murder? Justify it, condone it, defend it. It obviously makes you better if it is done YOUR way. But the end is result is: The guilty is dead And the victims never have a say in their manner of death, so who really cares? Dead is dead |
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12-02-2015, 04:10 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
I think that if this dead kid found himself facing the case OJ was up against, without OJ's resources, he'd have been found guilty. The percentage of people that plead out is well into the 90's....... Even today if you don't have the resources to mount a defense, the public defender will tell you to take a deal even if he thinks you're innocent. So, take a 16 year old black kid, a Sheriff looking to close a highly public case with an election imminent, a local media sensationalizing and promoting a mob mentality, while eliminating any possibility of an unbiased jury....... An all white jury? a 4 minute deliberation? Yeah, seems legit to me  |
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12-02-2015, 06:02 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
Good, glad we finally agree  The jury really wasn't needed with his confession, that's why it only took 4 minutes. (Is the weed giving you the giggles today?) |
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12-02-2015, 06:02 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
He said he was guilty  What evidence is there that he wasn't? |
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12-02-2015, 11:28 PM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
No, the death penalty is not murder, it is homicide, but not murder. Intent and legal standing are the difference. It's not my way, it's the law. Correct, victims don't have a choice in their manner of death. Correct, dead is dead. You seem to be convinced that this kid was guilty. You say he confessed. If everyone who confesses is guilty then why have 92 convictions, based on a confession been overturned due to DNA evidence? They confessed--how can they be innocent? I promise if you are put in a room under the right circumstance there are people that could make you confess to a crime you didn't commit, without ever laying a hand on you. I'll admit, I have no idea if this kid is guilty or innocent. I didn't see any evidence either way. I've only heard conjecture and the confession of a kid. What I do know is that he is innocent until proven guilty. He was never afforded that luxury. If someone had murdered my wife or mother, I would want to make that person die a horrible death. But, it would only be a want. Killing the person for my own personal pleasure would leave me a shell of a human. I understand rage, but if one must be able to control it. I know I won't change your mind and that's cool. It's been a good debate, and that is why our society works! |
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12-03-2015, 03:28 AM
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Re: The Lynching of Jesse Washington
I'm not convinced he's guilty, I was responding to those that posted they knew certain unproven or unpublished facts about this case. None of us knows the truth, just like many cases today, as you pointed out. It keeps the mind sharp to question everything Plus, I just like to poke rob with a stick sometimes, and he pokes back Good debate indeed |
