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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-en...leeds-56523179



Batley school protests: Prophet Muhammad cartoon row 'hijacked'
26 March 2021 Leeds & West Yorkshire


Protests outside a school where pupils were shown a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad are "deeply unsettling", a government minister has said.

Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick said teachers should be able to "appropriately show images of the prophet" in class.

Protests have been staged outside Batley Grammar School, where a teacher has been suspended.

The West Yorkshire school has apologised "unequivocally".

Head teacher Gary Kibble said the member of staff had been suspended since the image was used in a lesson on Monday.

Demonstrators gathered for a second day on Friday morning, but had moved on by mid-afternoon.

The school, which had been due to break up for the Easter holiday, was understood to have switched to a day of remote learning and the gates remained locked.

Robert Jenrick described the protests as "deeply unsettling"
Mr Jenrick called for the "deeply unsettling" scenes outside the school to "come to an end".

"In a free society we want religions to be taught to children and for children to be able to question and query them," he told the BBC.

Protesters said the school had failed its duty of safeguarding
Protesters had demanded the teacher's sacking , while some parents who spoke to the BBC said they didn't agree with the demonstrations and found them "intimidating".

As a crowd gathered on Friday, one protester read out a statement at the school gates.

He said the group "do not accept that the school has taken this issue seriously, given that it's taken them four days to merely suspend only one of the teachers involved".


Another protester, who gave his name only as Mr Hussain, told the PA news agency he was a parent at the school and said: "We would not like any form of extremism, any extremist viewpoints, to be taught to children."

MEND, which helps Muslims engage with British media and politics, said its Islamophobia Response Unit had been helping "several" parents liaise with the school over the issue.

Deputy chair Dr Shazad Amin, said he saw "no problem" with blasphemy being discussed at the school but said the particular image shown to pupils was "deeply offensive" and "furthered stereotypes and anti-Islamic tropes".

As a result, he said people in the local community had "a right to feel hurt and a right to feel angry" but called for them to allow the matter to be properly investigated.

He said parents were "fairly positive" with the action taken so far by the school.


Baroness Warsi said she had spoken to parents and pupils at the school
Former Conservative Party chairwoman Baroness Warsi said the debate has been hijacked by "extremists on both sides" to fuel a "culture war" at the expense of "kids and their learning".

She told the BBC she had spoken to pupils and parents over the last 24 hours and "that many pupils were left distressed because of what happened".

Speaking on Radio 4's Today programme, she said: "It's about safeguarding children and making sure the school look again, as should every school, to ensure that every pupil in their school is being taught in a way which creates a positive, unifying learning environment."



Around a dozen or so protestors who remained outside Batley Grammar School for most of the morning have now left.

The school was due to break up for the Easter holiday today, but the gates are locked and the school is shut.

The protesters here this morning said they wanted to keep things peaceful after concerns were raised yesterday about threats and intimidation towards school staff.

Some passers-by told me they wanted the protest to wind down so they could work on a dialogue with school and to bring an end to the disruption to the local community.

Labour MP for Batley and Spen, Tracey Brabin, condemned those who "seek to fan the flames of this incident", and said she welcomed the school's apology.

In a statement, she said: "No teacher should be facing intimidation or threats, there is no excuse for that.

"The focus must be on the welfare and education of the children at this school."

West Yorkshire Police said no arrests had been made and officers remained at the school.

Parts of the Koran are taken to mean that neither Allah nor Muhammad can be captured in an image by human hand and any attempt to do so is seen as an insult.

Head teacher Gary Kibble has apologised "unequivocally"
Head teacher Mr Kibble said the teacher had "given their most sincere apologies" and been suspended pending an investigation.

Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, called for the school to be allowed to investigate the matter "without a running commentary in the media, on social media, and outside the school gates".

A petition calling for the teacher to be reinstated has received more than 10,000 signatures.

In a statement on Thursday, the Department for Education said it was "never acceptable to threaten or intimidate teachers" and that they encouraged dialogue between schools and parents when issues emerged.

Kirklees Council said Batley Grammar is an academy school so the authority only has a "very limited role" in its running but said it was pleased to see the school had taken "swift action".

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Here is another article from same source with a pretty generous explanation of why Muslims piss their pants about selfies with their Daddy (pbuh).

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What does the Koran say?

There is no specific, or explicit ban in the Koran, the holy book of Islam, on images of Allah or the Prophet Muhammad - be they carved, painted or drawn.

However, chapter 42, verse 11 of the Koran does say: "[Allah is] the originator of the heavens and the earth... [there is] nothing like a likeness of Him."

This is taken by Muslims to mean that Allah cannot be captured in an image by human hand, such is his beauty and grandeur. To attempt such a thing is seen as an insult to Allah.

The same is believed to apply to Muhammad.

Chapter 21, verses 52-54 of the Koran reads: "[Abraham] said to his father and his people: 'What are these images to whose worship you cleave?' They said: 'We found our fathers worshipping them.' He said: 'Certainly you have been, you and your fathers, in manifest error.'"

From this arises the Muslim belief that images can give rise to idolatry - that is to say an image, rather than the divine being it symbolises, can become the object of worship and veneration.
What does Islamic tradition say?

Islamic tradition or Hadiths, the stories of the words and actions of Muhammad and his Companions, prohibits images of Allah, Muhammad and all the major prophets of the Christian and Jewish traditions.

More widely, Islamic tradition has discouraged the figurative depiction of living creatures, especially human beings. Islamic art has therefore tended to be abstract or decorative.

Shia Islamic tradition is far less strict on this ban. Reproductions of images of the Prophet, mainly produced in the 7th Century in Persia, can be found.
Load of bullocks. Muslims simply didn't give a shit until the Brits enabled the goat-fucking Wahhabi and let their virus spread. Good to see the chickens finally coming home to roost though.

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Fuck Muslims.

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I don't agree with the whole thing, and it's particularly disturbing that the poor teacher has to go into hiding.

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Here is another article from same source with a pretty generous explanation of why Muslims piss their pants about selfies with their Daddy (pbuh).

Load of bullocks. Muslims simply didn't give a shit until the Brits enabled the goat-fucking Wahhabi and let their virus spread. Good to see the chickens finally coming home to roost though.

In what way did we Brits enable them or let their virus spread?

America has been steadily carpet bombing and dismantling the Middle East since the 80s. Toppling leaders like Saddam Hussein, who kept the more fanatical Islamists in line, was disastrous too. It was not Britain who trained and armed Al-Qaeda, after all.

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In what way did we Brits enable them or let their virus spread?

America has been steadily carpet bombing and dismantling the Middle East since the 80s. Toppling leaders like Saddam Hussein, who kept the more fanatical Islamists in line, was disastrous too. It was not Britain who trained and armed Al-Qaeda, after all.
Really?

The UK was meddling in the ME prior to WW1 in order to undermine the Ottomans. T. E. Lawrence ring a bell? After WW1, the Allies then reneged on the informal treaty they had agreed upon before the Arab Revolt, causing instability. The UK eventually sided with the House of Saud in order to unify the Peninsula. That's just off the top of my head.

But what about? Fuck your what-abouts. I'm far more critical of the U.S. than anyone on here, I assure you that. We wouldn't have had goat-fucking Wahhabis to fight the commies in fuckistan with out a Saudi state in the first place. So, thanks?

So, yea, enjoy the chickens.

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According to UKs most decorated SAS member the SA trained Bin Laden in Scotland during the 80s to fight the Russians.

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Every Muslim man, woman, and child needs to be mocked, raped, tortured, murdered, and desecrated.

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Allah’s a child-molesting faggot.

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I wish I was a teacher of filthy, disgusting scuzlim children.

100% of my energy would be spent on verbally & physically abusing them.

On lunch breaks, I’d never digest anything...I’d vomit gutfuls of liquor & raw bacon on their greasy, hairy faces and down their slimy throats every day.

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