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Murder Charge Just or Unjust?

LaRue Bratcher, a 34-year-old Black Army veteran from Oklahoma, remains behind bars on a charge of first-degree murder more than a year after he shot and killed a white man allegedly trying to break into his marijuana grow business.

With his trial date delayed until later this year, Bratcher’s family and friends and members of the Oklahoma City community are rallying behind him, saying the murder charge is unjust.

“I feel like this was an injustice for the simple fact that if the roles were reversed, if this was a white person inside the facility, he would not be in this situation,” Bratcher’s wife, Vicky Bratcher, told Yahoo News in a video interview.

“Someone broke into his place,” Bratcher’s uncle, Derrick Neighbors,*said at a rally*last month. “He didn’t go out looking for trouble. He was in his own place of business.”


On May 27, 2020, around 1 a.m., Bratcher was at the grow operation warehouse when Daniel Hardwick, a 42-year-old white man, allegedly attempted to break into the business for the second consecutive night. Video from that night reportedly shows Hardwick park his car at the rear of the shop, walk to the business’s door and jostle with the door handle, attempting to gain entry.

“He was trying to break in when the business owner, who was inside the business at the time, apparently opened fire with a handgun, striking and killing the man who was breaking in,” Master Sgt. Gary Knight with the Oklahoma City Police Department told*KFOR.

Bratcher called the police shortly after the shooting, and once at the scene, officers called the Oklahoma Medical Marijuana Authority to ensure the business was legal. When they found out that the business’s license had expired, Bratcher was arrested for operating a grow shop illegally, a felony, and was held on $5,000 bond. He was not, however, initially arrested in Hardwick’s death. In addition to arresting Bratcher, authorities also seized 480 marijuana plants worth an estimated $1,500,000.

A day after the arrest, Bratcher was released on bond. But just a week later, the city’s district attorney’s office reviewed the case and upgraded Bratcher’s charges to second-degree murder. One week later, police raided Bratcher’s home, escorting him, his children and his wife to the street, and arrested Bratcher again. Then, after he refused to accept a plea deal late last year, Bratcher’s charges were upgraded to first-degree murder. The family told Yahoo News that it does not understand why

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Re: Murder Charge Just or Unjust?

To break it down.

He was a marijuana grower. But his license expired or revoked, whatever it was, he no longer had a license to grow. So he was essentially running an illegal grow operation. Which is a felony.

Guy attempted to break in one night. LaRue noticed that. So the next night stays at his building of the illegal operation, armed.

Guy comes back, attempts to pick the lock or jimmy the door. LaRue shoots and kills the burglar, through the locked door.

Of course the media and his family want to make it about race. And if he was white shooting a black burglar, they'd give him a parade or something.

I don't buy that, I think that's completely bullshit. Nobody cares about who's what race buy race hustlers or black folks trying to get out of trouble.

But I am torn a little about whether he was in the right, or wrong. I keep going back and forth. But definitely leaning towards he was in the wrong for 1 simple reason.

The burglar was outside a locked door. He already knew he was there, and had his gun armed and ready. So he had an advantage, the burglar didn't know LaRue was standing on the other side of the door with a gun pointed at him.

My main reason is , he never gave warning. And although I used to believe, a person trying to break in, fuckem, shootem. They shouldn't be doing what they're doing, they deserve it.

But I don't necessarily agree with that now. Because, from all that I've read, and available stats show. Giving a warning works 99% of the time.

He could have just said "I've got a gun" and that burglar would have almost certainly ran out of there.

Not too mention, there's the shooting through the locked door. So the guy wasn't technically inside yet.

And then there's the stand your ground law. Which doesn't protect a person if they are committing a felony while "standing their ground". Which LaRue was committing a felony at that time.

And I have a 17 year old and 19 year old sons. Although I don't think they'd ever try and break into a marijuana storage building. What if they did. Do you think your child deserves to die for it?

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I didnt read.

I assume this is about Derek Chauvin.

HERO Chauvin.

He was no murderer.

He was a philanthropist.

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LaRue Bratcher, a 34-year-old Black Army veteran from Oklahoma, remains behind bars on a charge of first-degree murder more than a year after he shot and killed a white man allegedly trying to break into his marijuana grow business.

With his trial date delayed until later this year, Bratcher’s family and friends and members of the Oklahoma City community are rallying behind him, saying the murder charge is unjust.

“I feel like this was an injustice for the simple fact that if the roles were reversed, if this was a white person inside the facility, he would not be in this situation,” Bratcher’s wife, Vicky Bratcher, told Yahoo News in a video interview.

“Someone broke into his place,” Bratcher’s uncle, Derrick Neighbors,*said at a rally*last month. “He didn’t go out looking for trouble. He was in his own place of business.”


On May 27, 2020, around 1 a.m., Bratcher was at the grow operation warehouse when Daniel Hardwick, a 42-year-old white man, allegedly attempted to break into the business for the second consecutive night. Video from that night reportedly shows Hardwick park his car at the rear of the shop, walk to the business’s door and jostle with the door handle, attempting to gain entry.

“He was trying to break in when the business owner, who was inside the business at the time, apparently opened fire with a handgun, striking and killing the man who was breaking in,” Master Sgt. Gary Knight with the Oklahoma City Police Department told*KFOR.

Bratcher called the police shortly after the shooting, and once at the scene, officers called the Oklahoma Medical Marijuana Authority to ensure the business was legal. When they found out that the business’s license had expired, Bratcher was arrested for operating a grow shop illegally, a felony, and was held on $5,000 bond. He was not, however, initially arrested in Hardwick’s death. In addition to arresting Bratcher, authorities also seized 480 marijuana plants worth an estimated $1,500,000.

A day after the arrest, Bratcher was released on bond. But just a week later, the city’s district attorney’s office reviewed the case and upgraded Bratcher’s charges to second-degree murder. One week later, police raided Bratcher’s home, escorting him, his children and his wife to the street, and arrested Bratcher again. Then, after he refused to accept a plea deal late last year, Bratcher’s charges were upgraded to first-degree murder. The family told Yahoo News that it does not understand why

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The honkey-cracker break-in artist deserves to be killed.

He was a blood-thirsty angry white supremacist, and he was hungry for coonmeat.

We know this was a racially-motivated hate crime, as evidenced by my assumption he was an uneducated misogynist evangelist Drumphite.

He'd be joyed to eviscerate coonmeat again, and it's good he's dead.

Send whitey to hell, where he can drink vanilla almond milk & fuck Martha Stewart in missionary position for eternity.

Muh guns!

Muh rights!

Muh potroast & boiled potatos!


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Re: Murder Charge Just or Unjust?

"LaRue"

Sounds like an old silverback Faggot with a Jerry-curl.

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I didnt read.

I assume this is about Derek Chauvin.

HERO Chauvin.

He was no murderer.

He was a philanthropist.
That’s not at all what this is about dumbass, completely different case And also Chauvin is a convicted murderer, nothing more

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That’s not at all what this is about dumbass, completely different case And also Chauvin is a convicted murderer, nothing more


Say what you will about Hero Chauvin.

He's a righteous martyr for the supreme cause of fortifying & nurturing the endangered Nordic Sons of Thor.

He's got a seat in Valhalla waiting.

This isn't about your petty racist politics...this is about Western European mythological philosophy...it's what educated & civilized peeps think about. Ever hear of "COLLEGE??"

You sound like another ignorant mouth-breathing xenophobic cheeto-cock with your lazy, whitebread opinions.

And Floyd Trayvon still can't breathe

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Say what you will about Hero Chauvin.

He's a righteous martyr for the supreme cause of fortifying & nurturing the endangered Nordic Sons of Thor.

He's got a seat in Valhalla waiting.

This isn't about your petty racist politics...this is about Western European mythological philosophy...it's what educated & civilized peeps think about. Ever hear of "COLLEGE??"

You sound like another ignorant mouth-breathing xenophobic cheeto-cock with your lazy, whitebread opinions.

And Floyd Trayvon still can't breathe
Lol whatever buddy, none of that even made any comprehensible sense whatsoever, save your nonsensical trolling for someone who cares. Have a nice day

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Unjust in my opinion, reverse the races and there would no doubt it was unjust.

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The guy attempting to break-in was still outside a locked door, so there was no justifiable reason for him to be shot. The race of the parties involved is also completely irrelevant. The property owner should have given verbal warnings that he was armed, calling the police, etc. A murder charge is definitely appropriate in this situation, as is a felony charge for growing marijuana illegally.

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