[bob351]

Its bigger than numbers, look beyond the numbers at social circumstances and various other issues that cause cyclical poverty and crime.

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

Its bigger than numbers, look beyond the numbers at social circumstances and various other issues that cause cyclical poverty and crime.

No argument there, but AI believes everything in America is designed to keep the black man down...

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by Broadjumper ↗

Apparently it does because the welfare hating right loves to perpetuate these memes against this President as much as they can...they know most won't bother to check any facts.

I was just using the common label for the program, kinda like the Bush tax cuts that have been extended by Obama are still called he Bush tax cuts

Call it whatever you like, both parties are up to their eyebrows at the pork barrel

The right LOVES welfare that benefits them, like tax deductions and tax free incentives.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

Its bigger than numbers, look beyond the numbers at social circumstances and various other issues that cause cyclical poverty and crime.

Yep, that's what we need to address

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by Zambini ↗

I was just using the common label for the program, kinda like the Bush tax cuts that have been extended by Obama are still called he Bush tax cuts

The right LOVES welfare that benefits them, like tax deductions and tax free incentives.

They're called the BUSH tax cuts because he enacted them. They're called Obama phones because the right hates Obama..

And they'll never see corporate welfare as an evil, it's GOOD business.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by Broadjumper ↗

They're called the BUSH tax cuts because he enacted them. They're called Obama phones because the right hates Obama..

And they'll never see corporate welfare as an evil, it's GOOD business.

Ok, so you agree they are called Obama phones.

[Broadjumper]

Originally Posted by Zambini ↗

Ok, so you agree they are called Obama phones.

Nope...but I agree that this another example of a pejorative the rightwing cretins have to hang on him...

[breakersailer]

Cultural issues the only thing makes sense to me. Go to a black neighborhood and be white and try to start a business...you won't make it. So within those socioeconomic groups there is opportunity and I think it has nothing to do anymore with race. Talk to a black woman from those areas and it is all about having a baby with so and so it is not about the relationship.

[eldiano]

The system is broken because of education. I kind of notice that the schools that surround the area says a lot on what they want them to teach those kids to be. Some schools teach their students to be ceo's, presidents and vice presidents, while others teach them to get into manual labor, engineer, and not in the sense of school subjects, but more of like the area the school is at, say for example working class schools social studies is largely mechanical. Rote work that was given little explanation or connection to larger contexts. Social studies Middle class schools daily work is to read the assigned pages in the textbook and to answer the teachers question, Affluent Professional School social studies class involves almost daily presentation by the children of some event from the news. Executive Elite School social studies class, the teachers initiate classroom discussions of current social issues and problems making them seem sophisticated conceptually and verbally, and well-informed.

I just wanted to point out the different emphases in classrooms in a sample of contrasting social-class contexts and the unequal structure of economic relationships... But that's just me.

[Zambini]

Originally Posted by Broadjumper ↗

Nope...but I agree that this another example of a pejorative the rightwing cretins have to hang on him...

But you refer to them as Obama phones, not bush phones.

Why you want argue this point, I don't know, but everyone knows the commonly used term is Obama phones.