[Vulpine]

Originally Posted by eugguy ↗

Don't be so quick to judge. It's easy to say he was wrong in shooting an unarmed man AFTER the fact that he had no weapon on him. However, the perp was asking for it. There is no respect for law, and I can't say much for the other way around. Seems everyone is paranoid. Police can't think of what could have happened after being shot at. From the video it is clear that the perp was given ample opportunity and to act accordingly. A taser would have probably made more sense, but either way, the lesson is to NOT put yourself in a situation like this in the first place. Make better decisions for better outcomes. That goes for both sides.

perp ?..what did he do ?..alleged perp...cop told him to get his hands out..which he did...and he got killed for it...this is a tragic waste of life

[Vulpine]

The young man was reportedly wearing headphones and likely couldn't hear the officers. "They were obviously upset their friend had been shot and kept screaming for him to wake up, and he never did. He died in the parking lot, they were saying he did not have a gun, and they were very upset because of that." a witness told KSL .

[Vulpine]

Originally Posted by 30564U ↗

No one ever listens to me, but that was a good shoot. No law or policy violated. The officer got a call of gangsters with a firearm, they responded, this idiot decides to walk away with his hands in his pant's pockets. The officers approach, give very clear commands, the idiot fails to comply and smarts off, then the idiot moves just like he's drawing a firearm, the officer fires two shots and kills him. Oh well...let this be a lesson, comply with the officer's instructions and stop acting like an asshole gangster. It's a good shoot...I seen this done quite a few times and there is no violation. As I've said time and again, if the officer honestly feels that his life or the life of another is in imminent life threatening danger, then the shoot is good. Clearly by the video recording...the officer felt he was in immediate life threatening danger...end of story. Now if you would like to know...a civil lawsuit will win hands down and more than likely will never go to court. Of course it could be argued that the officer should have used less lethal force...but, don't forget, the call involved a firearm. A lot of DR members act as if officers roamed the countryside shooting taxpayers willy nilly for no reason at all. If all you use to judge that is what's posted here on DR, then I can see why you think that way. But the number of unarmed individuals shot by officers throughout the US is incredibly small. It's a statistical anomaly. Think about this...how many of you are regularly stopped and questioned by officers? How many of you are stopped and questioned by officers once a year? How many of you have ever been stopped and questioned by officers in your entire life? Generally, at least in the US and Canada, you really have to work at even being contacted by an officer, let alone being shot or subdued by one. Hell, I bet many of you, if even stopped, don't get a traffic citation unless you really had it coming. This asshole was drunk (twice the legal limit), a known gangster, dressed in the gangster uniform of the day, refused to comply with the officer's repeated instructions, and finally moved just like he was drawing a firearm. Damn...he really worked at getting himself killed. How many of you have done that to that absurd degree? Is anyone here really that stupid? Look at all these police use of force/deadly force incidents. Look how hard these idiots work at messing with the cops...they generally go way way out of their way. Why chance it? Shut up, do as you're told, if you feel persecuted then file a complaint...it's just that simple.

oh come on..he had headphones on, listening to loud music..probably couldnt hear their commands

[Tantrix]

Originally Posted by Vulpine ↗

oh come on..he had headphones on, listening to loud music..probably couldnt hear their commands

Maybe that retard shouldn't have been listening to his iPod in public. Those are same dipshits that hit by cars and even trains because they can't hear anything. And even if he did have earbuds in, when he saw the officers approaching him he should have taken them out...but instead he has his hands in the pockets of those jeans 4x too big for him. He wanted to be gangsta and he died like a gangsta.

[Martano666]

Originally Posted by Tantrix ↗

Maybe that retard shouldn't have been listening to his iPod in public. Those are same dipshits that hit by cars and even trains because they can't hear anything. And even if he did have earbuds in, when he saw the officers approaching him he should have taken them out...but instead he has his hands in the pockets of those jeans 4x too big for him. He wanted to be gangsta and he died like a gangsta.

Oh yeah. You're right. Anyone listening to music in public with their hands in their pockets needs to be shot dead.

Fuck I am glad I live in Canada. We don't allow our cops to execute people like so many rednecks do.

Once again, did anyone establish if the guy was mentally ill before deciding his life needed to end? Had he been drugged? depressed? delusional? The entire training program for police is pathetic. Obviously was written by a fucking racist redneck idiot with no education whatsoever. But that's no surprise.

[mothmon]

Cop was dead wrong and, um, jumped the gun and should be disciplined but at the same time I have to think the kid was an idiot. What sort of mental defective has TWO guns turned on him with two law enforcement officers screaming to comply and yet still decides to be all hardcore wanna-be would-be gangbanger and give the cop some BIIIIG bad-assssss attitude? Best to get these people out of the gene pool quick before they reproduce too much. He was obviously suckled & weaned not on mother's milk but too much gangsta rap & too many GTA video games on his Playstation 3. Fool.

[30564U]

Wa wa wa...he couldn't hear the police because he had on ear phones. Really? When he walked out of the store he looked right at the marked police car, turned, and walked the other way. When officers repeatedly gave him commands, he turned around, looked directly at the two uniformed officers with their handguns drawn and pointing at him, lipped off, and then acted exactly like he was drawing a firearm from his waistband. Quit looking for excuses to make this idiot anything other than a punk who did the wrong thing at the wrong time and died as a result. That officer reacted exactly like every other police officer facing the same threat. It's a tragic situation, but he brought it all on himself...the headphones didn't make him act like an asshole.

[Kai_Wolf]

It was a good shoot. Take a look at various other vids where police officers get killed because they did not react in time. It's unfortunate life was lost. It always will be. But the officer felt his life was in danger and can only be judged on that. For those of you who do not understand that life or the reality of gunfighting (or personal defense), please go do some research before deciding to be arm chair Pattons.

[Parannoyed]

Seriously how the fuck can you defend somebody killing somebody like that? You could argue the victim was a danger to the police officer by not removing his hands from his pockets but isn't their something called free will?

If you know your not doing anything wrong and some prick comes a long telling you what to do, its MY natural instinct to be a prick to that person and do the opposite of whatever he says, so i deserve to be shot and killed. Fuck the police once again murdering cunts

[kustom80]

Why haven't I seen this on the news? Oh wait, he's white.