Horse Drags Female Performer

mexx · #41 ● 09-07-2015, 12:23 PM

LOL YOU GO HORSE .. FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM!

Evil Twin · #42 ● 09-07-2015, 04:07 PM

The problem with your perception is that the horse has no choice in that equation. It doesn't 'elect' to be trained or to have a relationship. It is born with that purpose imposed upon it by humankind.

And if it chooses not to cooperate and is deemed 'untrainable', it isn't as though it goes off to the wild to live a happy independent life in fields of glory. It is the human who decides that the horse isn't living up to its end of the 'partnership' and then the horse is disposed of accordingly.

When humans trade the lives of animals with one another for money and then force them to act certain ways for sport or for toil or for breeding, that is not a 'partnership' between the two species. That is the very definition of 'master and servant.

Or, far more appropriately, 'master and slave.'

That isn't to say that all horse breeders or trainers 'abuse' the horses physically or anything. I'm sure some are treated very well. But the fact remains that the animal in that equation never consented to the treatment. It is told from day 1 by humans what its role is and how it will act...and it is a human who ultimately 'disposes of' a horse that cannot or will not act in accordance with the human's wishes.

While I do agree with you that there are many bad trainers and owners out there, it is certainly not the case for most horse owners. Good horses are expensive. They cost a lot at the time of purchase, and they are often costly to maintain, especially if mismanaged. Add in the sweat equity it takes to make it a good horse and the costs are sometimes staggering. Most horse owners can't afford to sink a pile of cash into something they are going to abuse.

Horses DO elect to be trained all the time. If a horse doesn't want to do a specific task, it simply doesn't do it. And a trainer - a good trainer - does not force the horse to do what they want, they teach the horse through positive reinforcement. Having the right equipment is essential for proper training. For example, a proper bit causes no pain in the horse's mouth, and is only used to convey the rider's commands to the horse. Even still, if the horse wants to act contrary, it can just hold the bit between its teeth so it doesn't have to listen.

Permit me to use this as an example. Wild mustangs live an average of 15-20 years if left alone and completely untamed. Those same wild ponies can expect to live an average of 25-30 years if domesticated, just by virtue of the fact that they are trained and cared for by humans. We know this because wild horse populations are managed by bringing some to auction so the remaining wild population can thrive. That just doesn't fit with the picture you seem to be painting.

You say it's not a partnership, but a master and servant relationship. I know from personal experience that my definition is correct, but I'm comfortable with yours as well. We're the humans, they're the animals. That doesn't give us any right to abuse that relationship, it gives us an even greater responsibility to safeguard the health and the dignity of the animals in our care. There's nothing wrong with being a servant. I'm a servant. A public servant. It's the most rewarding thing I have ever done, and I intend to do this job until I retire or it kills me, whichever comes first.

When that relationship crosses the line from the horse, or any other animal, for that matter, being a servant to being a slave, that is where I agree with you completely. There is no excuse for mistreating an animal, whatever the excuse may be.

Horsevet1 · #43 ● 09-08-2015, 04:04 AM

This is a accident via equipment failure. Those type of footholds are supposed to release under significant pressure. Hers didn't. No horses were being abused in this video and no humans were doing any abusing. It was a accident. And for the record.... Horses are here animals. If you don't lead them, they will be glad to take the lead. Abuse can be forcing your will on a horse, but it's much more common to abuse one by not being a capable leader. Horses do not thrive when they do not know their place in the pecking order or when it keeps changing.

edwina22 · #44 ● 09-08-2015, 06:09 AM

And now for my final trick,

Pujardoff · #45 ● 09-08-2015, 09:50 AM

Ukrainians

etown780 · #46 ● 09-11-2015, 09:59 PM

I don't want to be a dick, RIP to the woman, and condolences to her entire family. But when you mess with animals of any size, shape, or form, your risking your life no matter how well trained they are. Look at C.Reeves and the horse incident. He was SuperMan for crying out lout. Or the Trainer and the Killer Whale at sea world. Or hunters going out to kill, but end up being the hunted. It's another way of natures life cycle like it or not. I stay away from animals, and don't support any abuse or entertainment shows with animals at all. There are others who will agree with me and others who won't. It's an opinion and it will always remain an opinion throughout the years and century's too come.