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Old 11-04-2014, 08:00 PM
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You're saying I'm pigeonholing all Republicans as you pigeonhole all Democrats trying to convince myself of my own allegiance to them..

I do not want big government. I do not want the state to intervene in every aspect of my life. I don't feel the government should provide a standard of living. Completely wrong on every aspect.

As I've stated before I believe we should do away with welfare altogether.. That's my belief because I'm such a Democratic sheep right?

Try to mock my understanding of Democrats and Republicans because of a simple comparison? Seems awful presumptuous of you to conclude so much.
Then you're a moron. By allowing hundreds of thousands to come here illegally assures the welfare system cannot ever be shut off. Too many people depend on it. Those hundred thousand Haitians, will get welfare.

So your views on policy are contradicting. You can't bring in hundreds of thousands of people who have little to no education or job training with their 8 kids and expect them to not need welfare. Why the fuck you think they come here?

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Then you're a moron. By allowing hundreds of thousands to come here illegally assures the welfare system cannot ever be shut off. Too many people depend on it. Those hundred thousand Haitians, will get welfare.

So your views on policy are contradicting. You can't bring in hundreds of thousands of people who have little to no education or job training with their 8 kids and expect them to not need welfare. Why the fuck you think they come here?
First of all that was a response to someone else Mr. Moron.

For the last time I'm going to explain what you seemingly can't or don't want to understand. All 100,000 of those LEGAL immigrants would be here within the next 2 years. If Obama lets them come early or doesn't it makes literally 0 difference.

How does me not believing in welfare have anything to do with that?

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A government ran "extended medical" care facility would be plausible imo, with heavy stipulations of course..But a standard medical practice wouldn't. The cost it would be to build enough hospitals, staff, doctors etc, would be insane to attempt putting in every city.

Even if you peppered the nation with a few here and there, they wouldn't be able to handle the demand.

We already have clinics that are burdened with high demand.

The competition would absolutely be there though, people would cheat the system, and someone that could easily afford the pay-for-care would drop off the financial grid to get into state funded extended health facilities.

Then the competitive wages. Medical staff already feel they are "underpaid" I can't imagine any of them willing to work on government wages. The ones that do, probably are not going to offer the best care. Think of it as a 'Public defender" with your health in his hands.
We have big problems here with both fraud and our best healthcare practitioners being lured south for better pay.
A lot of Americans with no coverage come over

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We have big problems here with both fraud and our best healthcare practitioners being lured south for better pay.
A lot of Americans with no coverage come over
Yea... issues across the board.

We have some of the most talented Drs. from all over the world trying to get in on the pie, and expecting the big dollars.

Like i said, it is something entrenched, getting something as far as change will take huge sacrifices, and time.

New plans, because our current two party system isn't on the right track IMO.

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First of all that was a response to someone else Mr. Moron.

For the last time I'm going to explain what you seemingly can't or don't want to understand. All 100,000 of those LEGAL immigrants would be here within the next 2 years. If Obama lets them come early or doesn't it makes literally 0 difference.

How does me not believing in welfare have anything to do with that?
Umm. Because you support bringing people here who only come here because they have a welfare safety net. If there was welfare in Haiti and no welfare here they wouldn't be coming here

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Oh and no they wouldn't all be here in two years.

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Umm. Because you support bringing people here who only come here because they have a welfare safety net. If there was welfare in Haiti and no welfare here they wouldn't be coming here
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, they'd like to work for a living?

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Umm. Because you support bringing people here who only come here because they have a welfare safety net. If there was welfare in Haiti and no welfare here they wouldn't be coming here
Yes, they would be coming here for the opportunity to get a job AND to be with their family that's already here.

Are you really that slow?

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Oh and no they wouldn't all be here in two years.
The 100,000 Haitian legal immigrants that are scheduled to be in the US within the next 2 years wouldn't be here within the next 2 years without Obama's help?

If I'm walking home, and someone offers me a ride. When they drop me off at home does that mean I wouldn't have gotten home without them?

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I'll always be on the fence about immigration. Especially in a time, where we are evolving into more stricter standards as far as job placement.

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