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And Obama isnt tripling the debt now?

We already had this conversation though, whereby you deflected by blaming everything on policies put in place by the Bush Administration.

IRS Scandal, Immigration Reform, Obamacare... Worst president this country has ever had.

Executive order, executive order, executive order. Hes a one man show, that guy.
Neither party has the balls to balance the budget.


It's too bad you're too young to remember or be alive for any other president
If you think this guy is going out on a worse note than Clinton, bush or Reagan you're delusional.
The scandals this guy has had are nothing in comparison to what those presidents dealt with.

I still don't see how obamacare is even on the radar.
Sure the rollout has been mishandled, and Obama lied when he said if you had coverage previously you could keep it.
But the fact remains that something needed to be done to reign in healthcare costs, or at least try to.
There's something seriously fucking wrong when the most profitable industry in the nation is healthcare, the same drug costs 90% less in canada, and your average life expectancy is less than many other places despite having far higher costs.
He deserves a certain amount of credit for at least trying.

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If the government really wanted to fix healthcare, or cut the prices significantly to a more affordable rate, they would implement price gouging laws.

His ploy was just another gov. Intervention tactic.

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He wasn't trying to lower health care costs. He was trying to make the middle class pay for the poors health care. Keep in mind the rich won't need Obama Care, they will keep their private insurance. It's the middle class who got screwed into having little choice, and have to carry the poor.

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Neither party has the balls to balance the budget.


It's too bad you're too young to remember or be alive for any other president
If you think this guy is going out on a worse note than Clinton, bush or Reagan you're delusional.
The scandals this guy has had are nothing in comparison to what those presidents dealt with.

I still don't see how obamacare is even on the radar.
Sure the rollout has been mishandled, and Obama lied when he said if you had coverage previously you could keep it.
But the fact remains that something needed to be done to reign in healthcare costs, or at least try to.
There's something seriously fucking wrong when the most profitable industry in the nation is healthcare, the same drug costs 90% less in canada, and your average life expectancy is less than many other places despite having far higher costs.
He deserves a certain amount of credit for at least trying.
Neither has the balls? I don't agree with that. The left won't do it because they refuse to reel in any welfare spending. They want to cut military. In this world the left wants to diminish our military might.

The right wants to cut the welfare spending but the left goes on a all out media blitz calling the Republicans racist and killing grandparents for even speaking of ways to stop fraud.

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If the government really wanted to fix healthcare, or cut the prices significantly to a more affordable rate, they would implement price gouging laws.

His ploy was just another gov. Intervention tactic.
A lot of people that advocate free markets would say that the markets are able to regulate themselves.

Obviously not

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Neither has the balls? I don't agree with that. The left won't do it because they refuse to reel in any welfare spending. They want to cut military. In this world the left wants to diminish our military might.

The right wants to cut the welfare spending but the left goes on a all out media blitz calling the Republicans racist and killing grandparents for even speaking of ways to stop fraud.
The military is by FAR the largest expenditure in the budget. There is no room anywhere else to cut anything.

The right wants to cut welfare get the fuck outta here.
Bush enacted the single biggest welfare expansion since the creation of Medicare when he enacted Medicare part D..... A trillion dollars worth of unfounded pure debt by 2020.

They all voted for it, Santorum, warren hatch, Boehner, delay, and mr budget himself Paul Ryan.

What a fucking joke.

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A lot of people that advocate free markets would say that the markets are able to regulate themselves.

Obviously not
Fuel, milk, bread, etc is free market. But has gouged laws.


Either way, guess what happens if we adopt canadian laws? Healthcare price gouging ceases too exist.

So how wouldn't, a dynamic economy as we once were not thrive, well with simple regulations that has already been imposed on dairy farmers?

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Fuel, milk, bread, etc is free market. But has gouged laws.


Either way, guess what happens if we adopt canadian laws? Healthcare price gouging ceases exist.

So how wouldn't, a dynamic economy as we once were not thrive, well with simple regulations that has already been imposed on dairy farmers?
IMHO, just like affordable bread or milk healthcare should be considered a right

I think the idea of a government option was to break the collusion between healthcare providers.

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Stupid phone on blitz.

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Bread and milk isnt a right, it is protected under consumer rights protections, healthcare isn't. If we made helthcare a consumer rights deal, the cost goes down.

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