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Re: Umpqua Community College Shooting in Oregon

It's not Toby Reynolds. Dude spoke with people from NBC to clear his name. People are saying it's a guy called Sam Hyde who did a TED Talk now. I'm sure that's wrong too.

I'm leaning more towards a crazed White guy than an Islamist. Nobody plans a terrorist attack at some obscure community college.

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We do actually. They say nobody is allowed to have a gun at a school.

What a perfect place to go mow down innocent people.
I was being sarcastic.
At the end of the day who gives a fuck anyway.
So go ahead blame this person, that organisation, this branch of the media.
It's always someone elses fault.

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Obama spent 14 min asking for the good people of the USA to vote for people who are in favor of gun control. However No law would have stopped this person who was 20 and under the age required to purchase a gun. People who think more restrictions will fix gun violence seem to forget most mass shooters would not be able to pass the existing law and obtain guns by deceit theft or other means illegally. Also gun free zones for deranged people are like Ruffies for a rapist a perfect match

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It's not Toby Reynolds. Dude spoke with people from NBC to clear his name. People are saying it's a guy called Sam Hyde who did a TED Talk now. I'm sure that's wrong too.

I'm leaning more towards a crazed White guy than an Islamist. Nobody plans a terrorist attack at some obscure community college.
Everything I'm seeing on Twitter about Sam Hyde looks like it started as some troll report, the original link is gone and the replies to one of the others are all taking it as a joke. The comedy troupe (I'm assuming?) he's with has been posting about not being able to get in touch with him though, but it could just be them fueling the fire. No idea.

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Obama spent 14 min asking for the good people of the USA to vote for people who are in favor of gun control. However No law would have stopped this person who was 20 and under the age required to purchase a gun. People who think more restrictions will fix gun violence seem to forget most mass shooters would not be able to pass the existing law and obtain guns by deceit theft or other means illegally. Also gun free zones for deranged people are like Ruffies for a rapist a perfect match
While I'm not a gun control advocate in the usual sense of the term (I think the right to possess small arms is worth the loss of life it may cause,) it's not quite accurate to say that gun control wouldn't do anything.

I live in Canada, for example, where we have many firearms but where strict gun control has made it exceedingly difficult for a criminal to obtain a firearm without extensive organized crime connections.

If I wanted to shoot up a school right now, for example, I wouldn't have the slightest clue how to obtain a firearm to do so. Your run of the mill mass shooter in the US doesn't have that much difficulty.

In places like Western Europe and Japan, firearm regulations are even more strict and their low firearm homicides reflect that strictness. Although gun control advocates overplay the disparity between US firearm homicides and Japanese/European firearm homicides (since there are many other factors that make the US far more violent regardless of firearms,) they're not wrong that if you get rid of all civilian firearms there will no doubt be a reduction in homicides and suicides. Firearms are much more deadly than other weapons and the introduction of a firearm to any violent incident instantly makes it far more likely to result in fatalities.

The trouble is that it is essentially impossible to get rid of all the firearms in the US, and not even in terms of political opposition. There are one-third of a billion firearms in the United States and they're not going anywhere. The porous border with Mexico makes that doubly the case. This ridiculous liberal fixation on so-called "assault weapons" is incredibly stupid too, seeing as how it's an arbitrary classification based on the "scariness" of the appearance of a firearm and how "non-assault weapons" account for the vast majority of firearm homicides.

And again, even if you could feasibly get rid of all the guns, there's still the question of whether that's a good thing. Just because it saves lives doesn't mean it's worth the sacrifice of a personal freedom.

The bottom line is that the gun control debate is pointless in the US because there's no gun control measure that would ever make a dent in the homicide statistics short of the impossible task of the widespread confiscation of firearms.

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Hate to jump to conclusions - this guy is either very unfortunate or it's him

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Re: Umpqua Community College Shooting in Oregon

The reports that he'd shoot people in the head if they answered they were Christian reminds me of Cassie Bernall, the Columbine victim who became famous after rumours spread that she was shot after saying "yes" when asked if she believed in God. She's still seen as a martyr (and her mother wrote a book on her martyrdom) even though it never happened.

This needs to be substantiated, and I don't think there's going to be any confirmation one way or the other anytime soon (although it's looking more likely that he did do this)

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