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You mean Russia got rid of outdated nukes. Russia isn't developing tactical nukes, they've already made thousands of them.
Look, either you believe to numbers or you don't.

If you have something to back up your assumptions then show the class.

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Russia is up to no good.

Just that simple.

They have been rotten to the core since they went Commie.

They are lost and are seeking the false security of their old Evil Empire identity.
If you're applying that to those in charge of Russia, I totally agree. Couldn't talk about the individual citizens though, not knowing any..

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If you're applying that to those in charge of Russia, I totally agree. Couldn't talk about the individual citizens though, not knowing any..
Yes. True.

I was referring to the 'leadership' who are only concerned about their own self-interest.

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Yes. True.

I was referring to the 'leadership' who are only concerned about their own self-interest.
That's the inherent lie about communism. In theory it works, making everyone equal and distributing wealth. But when the system was set up based on corruption and those with the wealth at the time keeping power, it became no different the old Monarchy. It's been an Oligarchy since communism fell, not a true democracy.

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That's the inherent lie about communism. In theory it works, making everyone equal and distributing wealth. But when the system was set up based on corruption and those with the wealth at the time keeping power, it became no different the old Monarchy. It's been an Oligarchy since communism fell, not a true democracy.
Sounds pretty much how every government governs; those in power keeping the wealth. Same old same old with different names, thats all.

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One can only dream.

True communism in action. Couldnt see Vlad doing this somehow haha. Although Russia probably donates 90% of its GDP to the military so.....

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Look, either you believe to numbers or you don't.

If you have something to back up your assumptions then show the class.
really don't understand where you're coming from. The number of nukes in Russia isn't published information. So if you're pointing towards some article to back up your claim I think that's naive.

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really don't understand where you're coming from. The number of nukes in Russia isn't published information. So if you're pointing towards some article to back up your claim I think that's naive.
This is official Russian Strateic Nuclear Forces info:
http://russianforces.org/

Very nice website; lots of information.

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This is official Russian Strateic Nuclear Forces info:
http://russianforces.org/

Very nice website; lots of information.
I'm speaking of tactical nukes. Not conventional nuclear weapons. Which isn't something you can simply Google to find numbers.

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