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Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

Many states are opposed to allowing Syrian refugees in as President Obama aims to bring in 10,000 or more. There have already been 1,500 brought to the United States. The concern is about terrorism. Several governors have openly spoke out against allowing these refugees in both liberal and conservative states.

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Along with hundreds killed and wounded, the Paris attacks have had a multitude of indirect victims: Syrian refugees seeking safety from war. They are now being shunned more strongly than before over fears that terrorists could be mixed in with them.

On Sunday, authorities revealed that at least one of the Paris terrorists entered Europe among the current wave of Syrian refugees. He had falsely identified himself as a Syrian named Ahmad al Muhammad and was allowed to enter Greece in early October.

Over the weekend, a handful of U.S. governors either opposed taking in any Syrian refugees being relocated as part of a national program or asked that they be particularly scrutinized as potential security threats.

Only 1,500 refugees have entered the United States since 2011, but the Obama administration announced in September that 10,000 Syrians will be allowed entry next year.

Alabama: 'Will not stand complicit'
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley rejected the possibility of allowing Syrian refugees into his state, and connected refugees with potential terror threats.

"After full consideration of this weekend's attacks of terror on innocent citizens in Paris, I will oppose any attempt to relocate Syrian refugees to Alabama through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program," Bentley said Sunday in a statement.

"As your Governor, I will not stand complicit to a policy that places the citizens of Alabama in harm's way."


There is currently no credible threat against the state, the governor's office said. And no Syrian refugees have been relocated to Alabama so far.

Michigan: 'Safety of our residents'
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder was more conciliatory in his language, but still resisted receiving Syrian refugees. He said the state would "put on hold our efforts to accept new refugees."

"Michigan is a welcoming state and we are proud of our rich history of immigration. But our first priority is protecting the safety of our residents," he said in a statement.

Snyder demanded that the Department of Homeland Security review its security procedures for vetting refugees, but avoided blanket suspicion of people from any region.

"It's also important to remember that these attacks are the efforts of extremists and do not reflect the peaceful ways of people of Middle Eastern descent here and around the world," Snyder said.

Louisiana: 'Kept in the dark'
Even before Sunday's revelation, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal complained bitterly in an open letter to President Barack Obama. On Saturday, he said the federal government had not informed his government about refugees being relocated to his state last week.

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"It is irresponsible and severely disconcerting to place individuals, who may have ties to ISIS, in a state without the state's knowledge or involvement," Jindal said.

He demanded to know more about the people being placed in Louisiana to avoid a repeat of the Paris attacks and wanted to know if screening would be intensified for refugees holding Syrian passports.

And he suggested Obama hold off on taking in more refugees.

"It would be prudent to pause the process of refugees coming to the United States. Authorities need to investigate what happened in Europe before this problem comes to the United States," Jindal said.

New York: 'Virtually no vetting'
A White House official attempted to allay concerns about the vetting of Syrian refugees.


On NBC's "Meet the Press," White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said, "We have very extensive screening procedures for all Syrian refugees who have come to the United States. There is a very careful vetting process that includes our intelligence community, our National Counter Terrorism Center, the Department of Homeland Security, so we can make sure that we are carefully screening anybody that comes to the United States."

New York Rep. Peter King, speaking on Fox News, cast doubt on Rhodes' comments.

"What he said about the vetting of the refugees is untrue. There is virtually no vetting cause there are no databases in Syria, there are no government records. We don't know who these people are."

Mood against refugees
More than 250,000 people have died since 2011, when violence broke out in Syria. At least 11 million people in the country of 22 million have fled their homes. Syrians are now the world's largest refugee population, according to the United Nations. Most are struggling to find safe haven in Europe.

The mood has been turning against the millions of Syrian men, women and children driven into destitution by a war that has gone on for four and a half years.

Some countries have told them to stay out. Hungary built a razor-wire fence along its border, and neighboring countries have been following suit. And previously generous countries like Sweden and Germany that welcomed thousands were already pulling back.

And in the United States, where candidates running in upcoming presidential elections comment on most major issues, the Paris attacks had already triggered caustic opposition to Obama's plans to scale up the number of Syrian refugees.

"We all have heart and we all want people taken care of, but with the problems our country has, to take in 250,000 -- some of whom are going to have problems, big problems -- is just insane. We have to be insane. Terrible," Donald Trump said at a rally in Beaumont, Texas. The Obama administration has previously announced plans to take in 10,000 Syrian refugees. It's not clear why Trump used a figure of 250,000.

Then, on Sunday, came news that one of the Paris bombers carried Syrian identification papers -- possibly forged -- and the fear of Syrian refugees grew worse.

"It's not that we don't want to -- it's that we can't," Marco Rubio told ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "Because there's no way to background check someone that's coming from Syria."

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

Send ALL moo slum BACK to any moo slum country.

Clear out ALL of Dearborn, Michigan and send them ALL to Syria.

American born and/or citizens included.

Demolish ALL mosques and remove any sign of their ever having been there.

Let the moo slums, who keep creating CHAOS, lie in the bed that they themselves keep making.

And KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES.

Do NOT bring it to the US.

Sheik Hussein Obama bin Whitehouse is intentionally destroying the US.

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Imagine living in a European country flooded with them....and STILL getting even more flooded by the minute. I envy you, atleast you have two great oceans protecting you.

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

10000 is nothing these days. 5 million pop countries got 5x that this year in Europe and probably much more next year.

I wouldn't complain. Just watch Europe getting fucked and you feel much better for your situation.

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

10k is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount heading over to European countries. Our PM for example is aiming for a 20k + influx by 2020. AND we're on a tiny island.
I live in a small farming village in the back of beyond and saw two women wearing burkas last week. Some people call it "multiculturalism".

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

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10000 is nothing...
10,000 is 10,000 too many.

Don't bring any more in.

GET RID of the ones there now.

Do NOT Import moo slums.


It's time to EXPORT moo slums.

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

isis . isil . seems someone in the west want to separate them into different organisations for there own benefits both the same to me

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isis . isil . seems someone in the west want to separate them into different organisations for there own benefits both the same to me
Seems like the American government needs a new name for their propaganda team in the Middle East. It wouldn't be the first name change.

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I agree with keeping them out. There is no way to find the terrorists in the group.

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Re: Syrian Refugees Shunned in the United States

The Governor of my state said no to any of them coming here. Last time I checked, 21 other states did as well.

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