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We never had any pre-conceptions of the paranormal, experiences or thoughts about it until the mid-1980s onwards.

My dad (who was deeply involved in politics and a member of the Labour socialist militant tendancy party(?) in the early '80s - his 'stupid days') started attending church when I was 9yo. Mum and I didn't go for a while yet. Life was normal and fine until strange things began to occur.

Small objects started going missing and re-appearing elsewhere, surreal inability to heat the house up, HOT spots, noises, an atmosphere of great oppression, recurrent sightings of what's called a 'devil dog' (a black dog). It often was just sat there very briefly then vanished. We also saw figures too. One day we were sat watching TV and heard a bang. We looked around and found a picture on the wall of mum's bedroom ( a Scottish scene with a Biblical verse on it) had fallen down. BUT it was not directly beneath the hook as it should be, it was across the room.

One morning mum was startled awake to find dad lay talking fluent Latin in his sleep for quite some time

I began to develop such intense fear, I started to wet the bed and have nightmares. I chewed my long hair with nerves and was a loner at school

I went to church with dad one evening and on our return home, mum was acting rather odd. It wasn’t until I was older that she told me when we were gone, whilst she was sat on the couch she suddenly became aware of a ghastly ugly stinking ‘thing’ crouched on the top of the backrest and it looked at her and said, “I won’t let them take you too” then vanished. It had yellow eyes and was putrid and hideous. We are certain it must have been a demonic apparition and the sinister activity in the house was deemed ‘demonic’ in nature. Not a ghost, that’s for sure.

In time, we moved to a different home and subsequently found out our old home was not lived in long before tenants moved out. Several years passed for things to settle and it was fully renovated. Our new home was without events and life was fine. I was getting myself together as best I could but still struggled. Time passed and we ended up here in London, England, UK.

The new house is an old Victorian terraced house beside Clapham Common in SW11. Things were great for several years until that old oppression returned again but this time it was different. I felt it was NOT like the last time yet was not a ghost.

Mum and I saw what are called ‘shadow beings’. She saw one that was about 7ft tall and one about 3ft appeared in my line of vision whilst I was on the phone. I sat there dumbstruck and in awe and told the person on the other end to “wait”. It moved to the bedside cabinet from the wardrobe and when I turned my head to follow it’s movement, it seemed to ‘freak out’ at me watching it and literally went behind the bed and vanished. I hung up and was like a rabbit in between a car headlights for several minutes. Completely baffled!! WTF??

Lamps and the TV started coming on themselves - TV even turning channels or increasing volume! My books all fell out of my cupboard once but the shelf was intact. Things started to be thrown about. Not often, very occasionally but enough to give you the fear!! My hamster started reacting strangely also. Jumping, staring, suddenly darting into her house, not coming out, being edgy.

We all individually started to feel ‘something’ touch us. It was small and warm. I was playing my Sony PSP in bed, lay on my side. I switched it off then lay on my front as usual. Immediately, I felt a warm pressure on my back, like a cat in weight. I froze and kept still, shut my eyes tight in fear. It got off my back and moved up the duvet then reached the pillow. I heard the bedding rustle as it moved and detected it was upright, two-legged. It then stood on my pillow and touched my face. Felt like a rough tongue but not wet. My heart was thumping out my chest by now and I had to look. All I saw was the most amazing light anomalies. Like twinkling flashes of white electricity. WEIRD

I was terrified and so, my nightmares and anxiety began – and still trouble me Thank God I don’t wet the bed

I’ve since seen light anomalies and my cousin wanted to leave our house when he stayed over one night – ‘something’ was on him. It was felt by both my parents when it ‘landed’ on the bed and they kicked it off. It banged the iron head & foot board too which annoyed them. It touched me in my own bed too, on my leg but I kicked it off. What it was, we’ll never know.

A team from the church came and investigated but were at a loss as to what it could be. We were advised to learn to cope and realise it’s not there to harm us and to learn to ignore it. It has since disappeared. It has all, however, left me scarred for life.

Quite a story to tell and very very taboo, I totally appreciate that. I’m not on meths or bathsalts!! I’m very rational and level-headed.

We did nothing occultish to try and invoke activity, it just happened like these things seem to do to many unsuspecting people all over the world.

Interestingly, I read ‘shadow beings’ have been reported all over the world by all cultures from way back in time to now. What are they???

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I'm shaking my head because I trust you, I don't believe it was a demon, sweetheart, and yet I may very well be wrong (all these thoughts at the same time). Life's crazy. Thanks so much for sharing this. Why would it bug your family? You mentioned politics like it had something to do with it.

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I'm shaking my head because I trust you, I don't believe it was a demon, sweetheart, and yet I may very well be wrong (all these thoughts at the same time). Life's crazy. Thanks so much for sharing this. Why would it bug your family? You mentioned politics like it had something to do with it.
Thanks for your trust and words Bryan.

It's such a bewildering story isn't it? When I think on it, I ask 'why us?' and 'what are/were they?'. We concluded demonic activity due to what we'd read about and understood. Ghosts of persons deceased do not cause such phenonima. Demons/malevolent spirits are more negative and are typically out to be destructive and don't always necessarily possess you - yet what caused dad to speak fluent Latin? Were they poltergeists? Nope.

So many questions and mind-blowing thoughts! Dad felt his change from political involvement to the church was a trigger, just a theory! And WHAT was that thing that made physical contact? Brrrr!

Took me an hour to type my story out for you, glad it was of interest :) I need to unwind now!!

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Okay

We never had any pre-conceptions of the paranormal, experiences or thoughts about it until the mid-1980s onwards.

My dad (who was deeply involved in politics and a member of the Labour socialist militant tendancy party(?) in the early '80s - his 'stupid days') started attending church when I was 9yo. Mum and I didn't go for a while yet. Life was normal and fine until strange things began to occur.

Small objects started going missing and re-appearing elsewhere, surreal inability to heat the house up, HOT spots, noises, an atmosphere of great oppression, recurrent sightings of what's called a 'devil dog' (a black dog). It often was just sat there very briefly then vanished. We also saw figures too. One day we were sat watching TV and heard a bang. We looked around and found a picture on the wall of mum's bedroom ( a Scottish scene with a Biblical verse on it) had fallen down. BUT it was not directly beneath the hook as it should be, it was across the room.

One morning mum was startled awake to find dad lay talking fluent Latin in his sleep for quite some time

I began to develop such intense fear, I started to wet the bed and have nightmares. I chewed my long hair with nerves and was a loner at school

I went to church with dad one evening and on our return home, mum was acting rather odd. It wasn’t until I was older that she told me when we were gone, whilst she was sat on the couch she suddenly became aware of a ghastly ugly stinking ‘thing’ crouched on the top of the backrest and it looked at her and said, “I won’t let them take you too” then vanished. It had yellow eyes and was putrid and hideous. We are certain it must have been a demonic apparition and the sinister activity in the house was deemed ‘demonic’ in nature. Not a ghost, that’s for sure.

In time, we moved to a different home and subsequently found out our old home was not lived in long before tenants moved out. Several years passed for things to settle and it was fully renovated. Our new home was without events and life was fine. I was getting myself together as best I could but still struggled. Time passed and we ended up here in London, England, UK.

The new house is an old Victorian terraced house beside Clapham Common in SW11. Things were great for several years until that old oppression returned again but this time it was different. I felt it was NOT like the last time yet was not a ghost.

Mum and I saw what are called ‘shadow beings’. She saw one that was about 7ft tall and one about 3ft appeared in my line of vision whilst I was on the phone. I sat there dumbstruck and in awe and told the person on the other end to “wait”. It moved to the bedside cabinet from the wardrobe and when I turned my head to follow it’s movement, it seemed to ‘freak out’ at me watching it and literally went behind the bed and vanished. I hung up and was like a rabbit in between a car headlights for several minutes. Completely baffled!! WTF??

Lamps and the TV started coming on themselves - TV even turning channels or increasing volume! My books all fell out of my cupboard once but the shelf was intact. Things started to be thrown about. Not often, very occasionally but enough to give you the fear!! My hamster started reacting strangely also. Jumping, staring, suddenly darting into her house, not coming out, being edgy.

We all individually started to feel ‘something’ touch us. It was small and warm. I was playing my Sony PSP in bed, lay on my side. I switched it off then lay on my front as usual. Immediately, I felt a warm pressure on my back, like a cat in weight. I froze and kept still, shut my eyes tight in fear. It got off my back and moved up the duvet then reached the pillow. I heard the bedding rustle as it moved and detected it was upright, two-legged. It then stood on my pillow and touched my face. Felt like a rough tongue but not wet. My heart was thumping out my chest by now and I had to look. All I saw was the most amazing light anomalies. Like twinkling flashes of white electricity. WEIRD

I was terrified and so, my nightmares and anxiety began – and still trouble me Thank God I don’t wet the bed

I’ve since seen light anomalies and my cousin wanted to leave our house when he stayed over one night – ‘something’ was on him. It was felt by both my parents when it ‘landed’ on the bed and they kicked it off. It banged the iron head & foot board too which annoyed them. It touched me in my own bed too, on my leg but I kicked it off. What it was, we’ll never know.

A team from the church came and investigated but were at a loss as to what it could be. We were advised to learn to cope and realise it’s not there to harm us and to learn to ignore it. It has since disappeared. It has all, however, left me scarred for life.

Quite a story to tell and very very taboo, I totally appreciate that. I’m not on meths or bathsalts!! I’m very rational and level-headed.

We did nothing occultish to try and invoke activity, it just happened like these things seem to do to many unsuspecting people all over the world.

Interestingly, I read ‘shadow beings’ have been reported all over the world by all cultures from way back in time to now. What are they???
i've had a lot of the same type of experiences... i havent a clue what they were and have no explanation for them. i have mentioned them on here before but because i have no actual proof that it happened, i only got shit for it.....so i dont mention it here much anymore. i totally understand where you're coming from though and how terrifying it is when you cant explain what you're own eyes (or your loved ones) are seeing.

thank you for sharing your experiences with us!!

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Well, point me at the stories Kanda. You do drugs (that would be my attempt to minimize your experience) so could that be it? Mental illnesses in the family? (I was bi-polar for almost 2 decades so its not a dig).

Regarding them not being ghosts, I believed (back when I was a Christian) that these manifestations would be demonic, as well ("not be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" and the story of Lazurus being tormented in "hell" were the Scriptures to back it up - one for the believer and the other for the non-believer). Point being - I have never had these experiences and had that knowledge.

Why would the supernatural critter "freak out" at having been discovered? I'm not going anywhere with that question, just that it's atypical for the popular idea of a demon.

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Well, point me at the stories Kanda. You do drugs (that would be my attempt to minimize your experience) so could that be it? Mental illnesses in the family? (I was bi-polar for almost 2 decades so its not a dig).

Regarding them not being ghosts, I believed (back when I was a Christian) that these manifestations would be demonic, as well ("not be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" and the story of Lazurus being tormented in "hell" were the Scriptures to back it up - one for the believer and the other for the non-believer). Point being - I have never had these experiences and had that knowledge.

Why would the supernatural critter "freak out" at having been discovered? I'm not going anywhere with that question, just that it's atypical for the popular idea of a demon.
drugs are a good thing to point out but the only drugs i've done heavily were marijuana (super hard to hallucinate on unless you fast for awhile and do a ton in a little amount of time) and alcohol. i didnt do shrooms or anything heavier till after my experiences.

im adopted so im not sure if metal illness is in my family and that could very well be the cause of some of the things i've seen but i did have a shared experience with a groups of people that i cant explain.

im not sure where the posts are on here.... they were made with my last account (which got deleted during a site upgrade once) so i cant search them anymore... but if you'd like, you can PM me and i will gladly recount them for you.

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That was something I read a few times on forums referring to 'shadow beings'. They seem to dart away upon being noticed. Like they're shy/nervous/fearful/elusive?

I know, it's as mind-blowing to me as it is to you. and we've even seen them

ARGH, it's all too weird!!!

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I dunno.Apart from the Amoth guy & a few other nutjobs,most Catholic priests will attempt to find a pragmatic solution to the situation i.e mental illness or teenage rebellion.They're actually advised NOT to go looking for demons unless all other explanations have been ruled out & there is no evidence of trickery.It sounds like there's been a bit of a breakout of teenage hysteria(i.e Salem witch trials)& the more well known exorcists can't cope with the all the calls.If the main point of the hotline is to provide comforting reassurrance from a trusted local source that the case is probably NOT demonic,I'm ok with that.
The real guys to worry about are fundamentalist sideshowmen like Bob Larson,who famously 'exorcised' Jon Safran because he was Jewish and had investigated other religions.
This nutter 'exorcizes' people who have been raped,sexually abused,been on drugs.He also denounces pop music(he said he was glad John Denver was in hell!) & has staff write his 'novels' for him,lives in a multimillion dollar house and charged the church for dirty weekends while he had an affair with a younger woman.(He later ditched the first wife for the younger model.)He doesn't charge for his services but he hints heavily that you should donate to him. HIS horse and pony show should have been put out long ago.

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