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I suppose shooting him in the leg wouldn't work, or are the cops so ridiculously untrained they couldn't hit a leg???
In Canada the RCMP are trained to fire in volleys of 3, and aim for the chest.
If a Cop here hits you in the leg, its by accident.

Same time though this guy was obviously mentally disturbed, armed with a knife and lunged at the Cops. They couldn't just let him go.
If they aimed at his leg and missed, they could have shot a bystander easily.... Very crowded area.

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Dont know how it works in the states. But a friend of mine who was a Firearms officer (retired now) told me that there is no such thing as shoot to wound, you only shoot to kill but only to stop an imminent threat to his life. Thats how they are trained, i also remember him saying chest shots not head shots. My 2 pennies worth.

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Don't go waving knives around in Time Square and you won't get shot by the Police.

"They didn't have to kill him. What a shame."

Fuck off.

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I suppose shooting him in the leg wouldn't work, or are the cops so ridiculously untrained they couldn't hit a leg???
Are you fucking stupid?

You always aim for the centre of mass - you DON'T risk cowboy shots with 100's of innocent people nearby.

Any amount of factors could mean that "shot to the leg" strays and kills someone else.
- Wind
- Sights not zeroed 100%
- Defective weapon parts
- Defective ammunition
- Suspect moving a split second before shot fired
- Etc


Aiming for the centre of mass is the safest option, in order to prevent injuring / killing innocent bystanders.

Even so, a shot to the leg can still kill - a hit to the Femoral vein can cause death within 3 minutes.

This is not Call of fucking Duty

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Any amount of factors could mean that "shot to the leg" strays and kills someone else.
- Wind
- Sights not zeroed 100%
- Defective weapon parts
- Defective ammunition
- Suspect moving a split second before shot fired
- Etc

Windage - Not sure but 9mm rounds within less than 10 feet are a bang on 100% hit regardless unless they are hurricane speeds but even then, its a non-entity

Sights - They had 9mm HANDGUNS not rifles at 100 metres or more.

Defective weapon parts - Police officers maintain their weapons to a reasonable degree at least. They know the guns they operate.

Defective ammunition? - Whilst ammo is known to fail, there was lots of backup available.

SUspect moving? He was moving towards them.


You're correct, this isn't COD but educate yourself a bit more about that shit.

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In Canada the RCMP are trained to fire in volleys of 3, and aim for the chest.
If a Cop here hits you in the leg, its by accident.

Same time though this guy was obviously mentally disturbed, armed with a knife and lunged at the Cops. They couldn't just let him go.
If they aimed at his leg and missed, they could have shot a bystander easily.... Very crowded area.
Good call brother. They had a obligation to not let a armed unstable man into the public.

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Windage - Not sure but 9mm rounds within less than 10 feet are a bang on 100% hit regardless unless they are hurricane speeds but even then, its a non-entity
True, but all of the things I've listed add up to the equation.

Sights - They had 9mm HANDGUNS not rifles at 100 metres or more.
My pellet handgun had the sights slightly off and the zeroing at 10 metres was off centre... and a leg is a very thin target.

Defective weapon parts - Police officers maintain their weapons to a reasonable degree at least. They know the guns they operate.
Yes they do... but that doesn't mean that one of the parts was defective at the point of manufacture. For example, a slight hairline crack could get worse over time without anyone realising or seeing it.

Defective ammunition? - Whilst ammo is known to fail, there was lots of backup available.
I'm not talking about "putting him down," I'm talking about ONE stray bullet. One defective round that misses the leg... bang... dead bystander. By aiming for the large mass, the room for error is greater than that of a leg.

SUspect moving? He was moving towards them.
Watch the videos - he was pacing around up and down, up and down. There was no predictable pattern to what he was doing. Yes, he went towards them at the end, but the argument is that he should have been shot in the leg at any point during the incident.

You're correct, this isn't COD but educate yourself a bit more about that shit.

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