Go Back  

AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim? 

Current Rating:

Join NowJoin Now
 
  #1  
Old 01-13-2011, 08:56 PM
Pink.'s Avatar
Pink.
Offline:
TROLLBEGONE!!!!!
Poster Rank:8
female
Join Date: Feb 2009
 
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Quoted: 9043 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
4/20 16/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss63926
AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning Arab-American comedian who has appeared on various TV shows including Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and "The Joy Behar Show." He serves as the executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and The Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.


When the news first broke that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords had been shot at a political event, all Americans were united in our response of shock and outrage.

Shortly afterward, the media reported that a 22-year-old male had been arrested in the shooting. His name had not yet been released. I believe your reaction to that piece of news depended greatly on your status in American society -- namely, whether you're a Muslim.

If you are a typical white person, I would imagine your initial response was relief the suspect was caught, and an attempt to make sense of why he committed this horrible crime.

But if you are Muslim or of Arab heritage, your reaction to the news of the arrest was likely: "Please don't let him be Arab ... please don't let him be Muslim." Believe me, that was my reaction.

This reaction in not unique to American Arabs and Muslims -- most minorities in America have a similar response when a horrific crime has been committed and the identity of the suspect is still unknown.

We desperately don't want the person to be one of "us," for fear that our entire minority group will suffer a backlash.

I doubt any white people hope a suspect isn't one of them -- it's just not relevant. They don't suffer as a group because of the actions of a few bad white people such as Timothy McVeigh or Eric Rudolph.

Americans are trying to figure out why someone committed this heinous act. Was it because he was ostracized by society, or because his parents didn't hug him enough?

But let's be brutally honest. If the suspect's name wasn't Jared but was Jamil or Mahmud instead, America's reaction might have been different. What if a Muslim-American had made anti-government statements and shot a U.S. congresswoman at a political event?

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton earlier this week called the suspect Jared Loughner an "extremist" -- but not a terrorist. Would Clinton and others be so hesitant to apply the terrorist label to an American Muslim or Arab-American?

By the way, what is Loughner's religion? It's not part of the news coverage, but we certainly know he isn't Muslim. If he were, the media, elected officials and law enforcement would be discussing that issue extensively. When a terrible crime in America is committed by a non-Muslim, the suspect's religion is simply not relevant.

In contrast, after Nidal Hasan, a Muslim-American, committed the despicable Fort Hood shootings, many called for him to be labeled a terrorist, including Rep. Peter King, R-New York.

Indeed, in King's op-ed in December 2010, he labeled Hasan a "home-grown terrorist" and a big part of the reason his Homeland Security Committee will investigate "the radicalization of Muslims in America." It's unknown whether King has any interest in investigating non-Muslim threats to America, such as the ones that led to the attack on Giffords.

Yes, I know Nidal yelled "Allah Akbar" at the time of the shooting, but does that mean he had a political agenda or was he just a delusional, sick person no different from Jared? When you compare the psychological profiles the media has painted of both, they are very similar: "Outsiders," "troubled," "loner." Even their photos share the same crazed look in their eyes, but because one American is Muslim and the other isn't, the presumption of terrorism differs.
Why can't a Muslim-American be considered a crazed lone gunman? I'm not a psychiatrist, but I doubt mental illness distinguishes between religions.
And why is that every time a white American commits a horrible act -- be it flying a plane into an IRS building or attacking a Muslim cab driver in New York City because he is opposed the proposed Islamic cultural center near ground zero -- the presumption is that he is not a terrorist, just a poor delusional guy who has lost his mind.
My point is not to divide us as a nation any further -- we are polarized enough by angry politics, race and, sadly, religion. But as we look for ways to heal our nation, which desperately needs it, applying the same standards to all Americans would be a great step. If a Muslim-American is a terrorist under U.S. law, I have no problem applying that label, if the same goes for a non-Muslim.

As our Declaration of Independence famously states: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal ..." and I believe they should be treated that way as well.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Dean Obeidallah.

__________________
...???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-13-2011, 08:57 PM
Pink.'s Avatar
Pink.
Offline:
TROLLBEGONE!!!!!
Poster Rank:8
female
Join Date: Feb 2009
 
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Quoted: 9043 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
4/20 16/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss63926
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

This is quite an interesting take on the crimes that took place in tucson, and on crimes in general committed in the US.

I am sure in other countries with other cultures, the minority cultures fear that the current high-profile crimminal just might be one of them.

but sadly, in many cases, it IS.

Our perceptions are different also.....depending on the ethnicity of people committing identical crimes.

__________________
...???
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-14-2011, 03:46 PM
petedeamon's Avatar
petedeamon
Offline:
My Rank: MASTER SERGEANT
Poster Rank:377
yes
Join Date: Sep 2009
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 86 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 14/20
Today Posts
0/11 sssss1919
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

I totally agree with your base. We tend to put labels on everything instead of dealing with matters as an "Incident." I was raised in a time where an act of treason was anything against the sovereignty of this country or it's core efforts. I have to say we have truly become acceptant of fringe radical behavior weather it be in the inner cities or on a political front. It seems we look to their "Feelings" instead of of cutting out the cancer.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-14-2011, 03:54 PM
Jere's Avatar
Jere
Offline:
blow me
Poster Rank:69
pillager
Join Date: Jan 2010
 
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Quoted: 345 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
4/20 14/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss13652
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

wouldn't matter muslim catholic lutheran or what ever religious belief or race.it was wrong.
i see the insanity plea coming on strong for this nut job

__________________
do me a favor and go fuck yourself..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Stevee
Offline:
So Fucking Banned
Poster Rank:21
Join Date: Aug 2009
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 15/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss33585
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

I am of the opinion that if you purposely take a life then you forfeit you're own.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-15-2011, 10:17 AM
osiris's Avatar
osiris
Offline:
My Rank: FIRST SERGEANT
Poster Rank:326
Join Date: Feb 2009
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 16/20
Today Posts
0/11 sssss2359
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

Dude was Jewish.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-15-2011, 02:04 PM
Pink.'s Avatar
Pink.
Offline:
TROLLBEGONE!!!!!
Poster Rank:8
female
Join Date: Feb 2009
 
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Quoted: 9043 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
4/20 16/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss63926
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

Quote:
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
Dude was Jewish.
I will definitely research this.


(Maybe he was Mossad)..............................JUST KIDDING!!!!!!

__________________
...???
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Loucleve's Avatar
Loucleve
Offline:
My Rank: LANCE CORPORAL
Poster Rank:1316
Join Date: Nov 2009
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 14/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssssss277
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

.......but does that mean he had a political agenda????

Yes absolutely. Nidal Hassan did more than yell allahu ackbar. He had repeatedly espoused jihadist doctrine, even going so far as to brief via powerpoint some kind of Army officer forum in Wash DC on the subject.

Unfortunately, even though he was recognized as a potential security risk by many, our Politically Correct world-view prevented anyone from stepping up and saying what should have been said.

......When a terrible crime in America is committed by a non-Muslim, the suspect's religion is simply not relevant.

Thats correct, because no one commits such crimes in the name of religion anymore. Except, it seems, the muslims. Do you not remember the Toronto 7, who planned to take over the Canadian Parliament and behead the Prime Minister on live TV?

Do you recognize Kashmir, Chechnya, the Philipines, the Sudan, Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn, Rushdie and the Satanic Verses? What do they all have in common, hmm?

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-16-2011, 06:47 PM
Pink.'s Avatar
Pink.
Offline:
TROLLBEGONE!!!!!
Poster Rank:8
female
Join Date: Feb 2009
 
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Quoted: 9043 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
4/20 16/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss63926
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loucleve View Post
.......but does that mean he had a political agenda????

Do you recognize Kashmir, Chechnya, the Philipines, the Sudan, Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn, Rushdie and the Satanic Verses? What do they all have in common, hmm?
does not really take much observation to see this.

__________________
...???
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-17-2011, 12:36 AM
rob666's Avatar
rob666
Offline:
So Fucking Banned
Poster Rank:55
Join Date: May 2009
 
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Quoted: 8621 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 15/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss16567
Re: AN OPINION By Dean Obeidallah, What if Jared Loughner Were a Muslim?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loucleve View Post
.......but does that mean he had a political agenda????

Yes absolutely. Nidal Hassan did more than yell allahu ackbar. He had repeatedly espoused jihadist doctrine, even going so far as to brief via powerpoint some kind of Army officer forum in Wash DC on the subject.

Unfortunately, even though he was recognized as a potential security risk by many, our Politically Correct world-view prevented anyone from stepping up and saying what should have been said.

......When a terrible crime in America is committed by a non-Muslim, the suspect's religion is simply not relevant.

Thats correct, because no one commits such crimes in the name of religion anymore. Except, it seems, the muslims. Do you not remember the Toronto 7, who planned to take over the Canadian Parliament and behead the Prime Minister on live TV?

Do you recognize Kashmir, Chechnya, the Philipines, the Sudan, Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn, Rushdie and the Satanic Verses? What do they all have in common, hmm?
How many Muslim troops currently occupy non-muslim land?

Reply With Quote

Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2010 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO