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We've got plenty of Mexicans already.
It's not like giving amnesty to those already here is going to bring any more in..

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That whole article was complete and utter propaganda..
You obviously don't know what propaganda is.
Better yet. Why don't you point out exactly what is propaganda. Instead of a pathetic attempt to discredit established facts because you can't see past Obama's zipper.

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It's not like giving amnesty to those already here is going to bring any more in..
That's propaganda. ^
Of course it will. Illegals knowing that crossing the border not only has no consequences, but you'll be allowed to become citizen. Get obamacare, get foodstamps, get a ss card and work permit.

Ya, that won't attract anymore. it's like you've been programmed.

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Old 02-19-2015, 05:24 PM
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That whole article was complete and utter propaganda..
Most of the article is direct quotes from a Democrat.

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You obviously don't know what propaganda is.
Better yet. Why don't you point out exactly what is propaganda. Instead of a pathetic attempt to discredit established facts because you can't see past Obama's zipper.
Propaganda? Such as portraying oneself as a military veteran in order to give credibility to a point of view?

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You obviously don't know what propaganda is.
Better yet. Why don't you point out exactly what is propaganda. Instead of a pathetic attempt to discredit established facts because you can't see past Obama's zipper.
Propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

The header in the article stated "PREDICTS UNPRECEDENTED ‘MILITANCY’ AMONG IMMIGRANTS" which is a single persons opinion and not "facts", is the embodiment of propaganda.

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That's propaganda. ^
Of course it will. Illegals knowing that crossing the border not only has no consequences, but you'll be allowed to become citizen. Get obamacare, get foodstamps, get a ss card and work permit.

Ya, that won't attract anymore. it's like you've been programmed.
Amnesty is only a singular given event, it's not some ongoing retroactive policy. Once amnesty is given, enforcing immigration laws becomes much easier on law enforcement. We can deport actual illegals not paying taxes and here illegally, instead of deporting those who work and contribute to society a valuable needed source of cheap labor.

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This is why democracy is terrible system: rule by hoards of people over others. It doesn't help that people who the majority didn't want here in the first place and who weren't even allowed here under existing law, have kids and those kids force their ways on the rest of the people. I don't agree with any law or system or the enforcement of any law that allows hoards to force their ways on others.

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This is why democracy is terrible system: rule by hoards of people over others. It doesn't help that people who the majority didn't want here in the first place and who weren't even allowed here under existing law, have kids and those kids force their ways on the rest of the people. I don't agree with any law or system or the enforcement of any law that allows hoards to force their ways on others.
Democracy can be corrupted, as it has been here, but it's still better than the alternative.

Corporate interests is what has completely corrupted our system.

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Democracy can be corrupted, as it has been here, but it's still better than the alternative.

Corporate interests is what has completely corrupted our system.
I think people are stupid and bad and would make bad decisions even without corporate interests. It's not most corporations that are pushing the welfare state. That's individuals and socialists pushing that. The educational industrial complex, medical industrial complex, police industrial complex, prison industrial complex and military industrial complex do however push for laws that benefit them and hurt everyone else (while an apple, tesla, Amazon or etc push for laws that help them but don't hurt anyone and don't violate people's freedoms).

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