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The Elm Guest House list:

Anthony Blunt, Royal Connections, MI5, Russian spy deceased.
Harvey Proctor, Monday Club, well known convicted paedo.
Sir Peter Bottomley. Worthing MP and Monday Club
Charles Irving
Leon Britton, Lord, ex Thatcher Minister
Peter Brooke, Life Peer
John Rowe, MI5, former MP
Cyril Smith, deceased, ex Rochdale MP
Ron Brown
Colin Jordan, ex National Front
George Tremlett, Former GLC Leader
Peter Campbell, Monday Club
Gary Walker, Sein Fein
Cliff Richard,aged Pop Star, known at Elm as 'Kitty'
Jess Conrad, aged ex Pop Star.
Ron Wells, aged Musician, aka 'Gladys' at Elm.
Ken Clarke, metioned BUT unsure of exact role.
Richard Miles, Monday Club
Chris Denning, ex DJ, convicted paedo.
R Langley, Buckingham Palace Equerry
Terry Dwyer
Patrick Puddles
Louis Minster, Richmond Social Services
Colin Peters, QC
Steve Everett, Westminster Social worker
Ray Wyre, so called expert on Paedo therapy
Peter Glencross, editor of Monday Club newsletter
Guy Hamilton Blackwell, son of Westland Helicopters Chairman
Colin Peters, Police informant
D. Naismith, Chief Constable Wandsworth
DC Chris Carter, CID Richmond
DC David Lines, CID Barnes
DC Ron Thornton, CID Richmond
PC Roderick Smeaton
WPC Sheila McInnes
PC Chris Wicks
WPC Elizabeth Meredith
PC Alan Jones

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The PM & Government is covering this up from the start

Butler-Sloss: I won't quit as head of abuse inquiry

The retired judge appointed to chair a child abuse review has insisted she will not quit - as the PM claimed she was the right person for the job.

Elizabeth Butler-Sloss was chosen by the home secretary to head the inquiry into allegations of historical abuse.

But Labour's Simon Danczuk said her position was tainted because her late brother, Sir Michael Havers, was Attorney General in the 1980s.

Downing Street said the peer "commands widespread respect and confidence".

Baroness Butler-Sloss was announced on Tuesday as head of a wide-ranging probe into how allegations of abuse by politicians and other powerful figures in public institutions such as the NHS, the church and the BBC in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s were handled.

MPs and victims claim she is too close to the establishment, particularly as Sir Michael was Attorney General at the time of the alleged paedophile scandal.

But Alison Millar, the lawyer who represents alleged victims of child abuse, said she doubted her clients would think Lady Butler-Sloss was the right person for the job, especially given the connection with her brother.

Sir Michael faced criticism after he sought to stop Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens from naming in Parliament a top diplomat - Sir Peter Hayman - as a paedophile in the early 1980s.

But Lady Butler-Sloss said she was unaware of her brother having any role, as attorney general, in the paedophile controversy in the 1980s.

"I know absolutely nothing about it," she told the BBC. "If people think I am not suitable then that's up to them."

Asked if she would consider her position or make further comment if calls continued for her to stand down, she added: "I am certainly not going to be talking to the BBC or anyone else about this any further."

Her nephew, the actor Nigel Havers, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One, that he knew his aunt well and he was sure that if she felt there was any chance of bias, she would not have taken on the job.

The former Chariots of Fire and Coronation Street actor, added that she had "had no political ties" to his father and knew nothing about the alleged events in the 1980s in Parliament.

A Number 10 spokesman rebuffed suggestions the peer would be unable to investigate all areas of the abuse inquiry because of her brother's involvement in the controversy as Attorney General in the early 1980s.

The spokesman declined to say whether the PM was aware of her brother's position prior to her appointment, adding: "His view is she commands widespread respect and confidence."

The suitability of Lady Butler-Sloss did not come up at Prime Minister's Questions, although the remit of her planned inquiry did.

In response to a question from Labour leader Ed Miliband at Prime Minister's Questions, David Cameron said it "may well be time" to back calls by the NSPCC's Peter Wanless - in charge of a separate review into how the Home Office responded to child sex abuse allegations in the 1980s - to make covering up abuse a criminal offence.

Earlier Mr Danczuk, who has investigated child sex abuse allegations against former Liberal MP Cyril Smith, said the revelations of a family connection with Sir Michael meant Lady Butler-Sloss' position was compromised.

'Cover-up' offence?
"I think the government should think again in terms of who they have appointed for this position," he said.

"I think she should consider her position. I find it quite surprising that neither she nor the government realised her relationship with her brother was connected to Geoffrey Dickens.

"It beggars belief that that wasn't considered in the first place."

Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, chairman of the Commons health select committee, has also cast doubt on whether Lady Butler-Sloss can continue. She wrote on Twitter: "Not doubting her integrity but hard to see why Baroness Butler-Sloss would want to accept a role so many regard as conflicted at the outset."

Keith Vaz, Labour chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee said he was surprised at the selection, pointing out that while Lady Butler-Sloss was "distinguished" she was also a member of the House of Lords.

Green Party leader Natalie Bennett said the peer was "categorically not the right person to lead child abuse inquiry," because of the involvement of her brother, adding: "No one should be expected to investigate a close member of their own family as part of an official enquiry. "

And Ms Millar, head of the abuse law team at Leigh Day Solicitors, urged the peer to step down.

"There needs to be not a shred of doubt that this inquiry is not an establishment cover up - and the concern really is that she is just too close to the establishment, particularly with this connection to Sir Michael Havers," she told the BBC.

Ms Millar represents some of the alleged victims of the Elm Guest House in London - the location where a number of sex abuse cases were alleged to have taken place.

'Gagging clause'
But former Tory children's minister Tim Loughton stressed the inquiry was "not a one woman show" and Lady Butler-Sloss would have a panel of independently-minded people working with her.

"Frankly, I despair," he told the BBC. "We're getting to the stage where even if the Queen were asked to chair this inquiry, there would be those saying there's a conflict of interest. If I'd been the home secretary, I would've appointed Elizabeth Butler-Sloss as well.

"We need somebody who has huge integrity, who has respect, who has great independence and has the expertise and knowledge to focus this inquiry... there are few people able to do it and Elizabeth Butler-Sloss is the obvious choice."

Labour MP John Mann said "multiple copies" of Geoffrey Dickens' abuse dossier, which he passed to then Home Secretary Leon Brittan in the 1980s, had been circulated.

He claimed the only reason why people were not coming forward to say anything about them was because they were bound by the Official Secrets' Act.

"They need the gagging clause removed... they fear being prosecuted," he told the BBC.

Lady Butler-Sloss was coroner for the inquests into the deaths of Diana, Princess of Wales, and Dodi Al Fayed until she stepped down in 2007.

She is also a former president of the Family Division of the High Court and was chair of the Cleveland Child Abuse Inquiry,

Despite her experience, BBC News Channel chief political correspondent Norman Smith said MPs had also raised question marks over her age - she will be 81 next month.

A Home Office spokesman, however, defended the appointment of Lady Butler-Sloss despite her family link to the controversy.

"Baroness Butler-Sloss has had a long and distinguished career at the highest levels of this country's legal system," he said. "Her work leading the Cleveland child abuse inquiry and as president of the High Court Family Division make her the perfect person to lead this important piece of work.

"As the Permanent Secretary told the Home Affairs Select Committee yesterday, the integrity of Baroness Butler-Sloss is beyond reproach and we stand by her appointment unreservedly."

A source added: "She is a person of impeccable credentials and experience. Her record stands for itself regardless of her brother."

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The phone hacking trial had a total of 200 detectives searching for answers.

The paedophile investigation,until this morning,had 7.
The powers that be trebled that this afternoon to 21.

Says a lot for our Government

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CofE braced for new sex abuse claims

Fresh allegations of child sex abuse against the Church of England (CofE) are likely to surface, the Archbishop of Canterbury has warned.

The Most Rev Justin Welby said he was braced for an abuse inquiry to reveal "bad stories" about the Church.

He told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show that he dealt with the issue daily and that the Church needed to be transparent.

It comes after the Home Office backed Baroness Butler-Sloss as the right person to lead that inquiry.

Concerns have been raised about her over a previous review role in which she is alleged to have told an abused choirboy that she wanted to exclude some of his allegations in order to protect the CofE.

She has said she never put institutions before victims.

Archbishop Welby said abuse survivors needed to be shown justice and called for transparency from the Church in how it dealt with the issue.

Asked if he was prepared for more "bad stories" of child abuse within the establishment, the archbishop told the BBC: "I would love to say there weren't, but I expect there are. There are in almost every institution in this land.

"This is, it's something I deal with every day and it is becoming clearer and clearer that for many, many years things were not dealt with as they should have been dealt with."

He added that the Church needed to apologise and explain how "utterly devastated" it was about the "terrible things" that were done in the past.

On Saturday, the Home Office gave its "unreserved" backing for Baroness Butler-Sloss to lead an inquiry into allegations of historical child abuse linked to public institutions in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.

Phil Johnson, who was abused as a choirboy, claimed she excluded allegations in a 2011 report and told him that she "cared very much about the Church".

The former High Court judge - who was appointed by the home secretary last week to head a wide-ranging inquiry- insisted she had never put institutions before victims.

Home Office minister James Brokenshire has pledged his support, saying her "integrity shines through".

He also told the Murnaghan show on Sky News that a panel of experts would sit alongside the baroness in the investigation, but he did not reveal if they would have equal powers.

Meanwhile, ChildLine founder Esther Rantzen said Baroness Butler-Sloss was "possibly the wrong person" to lead the inquiry.

This, she said, was because of her close links with the judiciary, her previous report and the connection with her late brother, the former attorney general Sir Michael Havers, who tried to prevent ex-MP Geoffrey Dickens airing claims about a diplomat in Parliament in the 1980s.

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper failed to give Baroness Butler-Sloss her unequivocal backing.

Asked on Sky News if the former judge was the right person for the job, Ms Cooper said: "I think she is an extremely experienced person who will be very good to do this job, but… she needs the Home Office to take action to make sure they can address these concerns.

"If they can't they will need to make changes and rethink the whole thing. I think the ball should be in the Home Office's court now to set this [inquiry] up in the right way and make sure they can do that, because I do think she has immense expertise that should be drawn."

Butler-Sloss should know her position is now untenable and she should stand aside

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Butler-Sloss steps down from child abuse inquiry

Retired judge Baroness Butler-Sloss has said she is stepping aside as the head of an inquiry into allegations of historical child abuse.

Downing Street said "it was entirely her decision" and a new chair would be appointed within days.

Lady Butler-Sloss has been under pressure to quit from MPs and victims concerned about her family links.

Her late brother, Sir Michael Havers, was attorney general in the 1980s.

Hope the new person is suitable to lead the investigation and not a Government lackey

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Two charged with historical child sex abuse


Two men have been charged by police investigating allegations of historical child sex abuse.

Charles Napier, 66, from Sherborne, Dorset, has been charged with inciting a child to commit an act of gross indecency.

Another man, Richard Alston, has been charged with indecent assault and gross indecency with a child.

Mr Napier is the half-brother of Conservative MP John Whittingdale.

2 down,I wonder how many more will fall in this house of cards

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I'm sure this kind of shit is going on... For Fucks Sake... look at Ye Old Michael Jackson

Before you judge... drink some more Jesus Juice

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Cyril Smith: Detective alleged 'prima facie' proof of MP's guilt

A senior detective investigating sex abuse claims against Cyril Smith told his boss there was "prima facie" evidence of the MP's guilt.

The detective's 1970 report to the Chief Constable of Lancashire said the Liberal MP would have been "at the mercy of a competent counsel".

The 14-page report, which has been shown to the BBC, also revealed "veiled threats" from a friend of Smith.

The Director of Public Prosecution later advised against prosecuting.

The officer, whose name has been redacted from the report, was investigating allegations of sex abuse by eight young boys, six of whom who had been at the privately-run Cambridge House care home in Rochdale.

The home closed in 1965, prior to Smith's election as an MP.

Cyril Smith report
The former MP for Rochdale was interviewed by the detective superintendent, who reported to former chief constable William Palfrey that "it seems impossible to excuse [Smith's] conduct".

"Over a considerable period of time, while sheltering beneath a veneer of responsibility, he has used his unique position to indulge in a series of indecent episodes with young boys towards whom he had a special responsibility," he wrote.

He said Smith was "most unimpressive during my interview with him".

The officer said: "He had difficulty in articulating and even the stock replies he proffered could only be obtained after repeated promptings from his solicitor.

"Were he ever to be placed in the witness box, he would be at the mercy of any competent counsel.

"Prima facie, he appears guilty of numerous offences of indecent assault."

The officer also interviewed a magistrate who told him in his "personal opinion" he "sincerely hoped that this matter is not prosecuted before the court".

"In my opinion, as a Justice of the Peace, it is not court-worthy," he told the officer.

"The prosecution can do no good at all and the backlash will have unfortunate repercussions for the police force and the town of Rochdale."

He also told the officer it was "no secret" that he and Smith "are buddies, and not only politically".

The name of the magistrate has been redacted from the report seen by the BBC.

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Barry Dodson quit as Rotherham mayor amid sex abuse claims

A mayor who stood down last month three weeks after taking office was facing claims he sexually abused a girl, it has emerged.

Barry Dodson, who quit as Labour mayor of Rotherham on 28 June citing personal reasons, faces allegations he indecently assaulted a 13-year-old girl in 1987, the BBC understands.

South Yorkshire Police confirmed a 66-year-old Rotherham man was arrested on Friday and has been released on bail.

Mr Dodson has not commented.

He has resigned from the Labour Party and now stands an independent councillor.

Rotherham council said it could not comment on a police matter.

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Kincora: Claims against intelligence services 'need to be' examined

Allegations that abuse at Kincora Boys' Home was linked to British intelligence services "need to be investigated", a former PSNI assistant chief constable has said.

Alan McQuillan said he had no proof of security service involvement, but that the claims were "potentially credible".

It follows calls for the east Belfast home to be included in a government inquiry into child sex abuse.

In 1981, three senior care staff at the home were jailed for abusing 11 boys.

Speaking on Radio Ulster's Nolan Show on Wednesday, Alan McQuillan said, considering the context around the time that the abuse was alleged to have occurred, he believed it was "potentially credible" that intelligence services may have been involved.

He said: "The allegation is there and it needs to be investigated. I do not know if it did happen, but I have to say, due to everything that was going on at the time, it could have happened.

"Effectively when Kincora was at its peak we had undeclared martial law here, the police service had collapsed, the army were in charge of security.

"There were all sorts of very strange things and some very strange people operating in Belfast and other parts of Northern Ireland, as part of the security operations.

"There are issues around the circumstances in which the police investigation in the mid-70s was closed down. All of that needs to be opened up and examined."

Duty of care
Amnesty International and politicians, including the former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone, have already called for the remit of the Westminster inquiry to be widened to include Kincora.

The inquiry is being set up to examine how public institutions handled their duty of care to protect children from paedophiles.

Last week, Amnesty's NI director, Patrick Corrigan said there were fears that there were "many more victims and abusers" at Kincora, during the period between 1960 and 1980.

He said: "Allegations have persisted that paedophilia at Kincora was linked to British intelligence services, with claims that visitors to the home included members of the military, politicians and civil servants, and that police investigations into abuse at Kincora were blocked by the Ministry of Defence and MI5."

'Co-operation'
On Monday, Lady Butler-Sloss stepped down as the head of the inquiry saying she was "not the right person" for the job.

She had faced pressure to quit from MPs and victims concerned about her family links, because her late brother, Sir Michael Havers, was attorney general in the 1980s.

Lady Butler-Sloss said she "did not sufficiently consider" whether her family links would cause difficulties in the inquiry. Downing Street said it would "take a few days" to appoint a new chairman.

Alan McQuillan said getting Kincora included as part of the Westminster inquiry to examine the allegations surrounding the home was vital.

"We are looking at this with a very different light today, compared to what was considered even in the 80s and 90s," he said.

"We have seen so much more about what was going on in certain areas, and we are much more aware of the different issues surrounding child abuse now.

"But unless you get the active co-operation of the British governments and relevant agencies, then any investigation or public inquiry will get you nowhere. You need that level of co-operation and assistance."

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