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If I stop posting suddenly it's because "The Establishment" has had me silenced

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This is certainly not unique to the Brittish. Here is America we have the same issues with our celebrities and politicians...perverts abound.

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I only watched the video about Heath. Who was doing the voice over?

Edit - Just watched the Cliff video as well. Although I'm not saying there isn't a possibility of it being true, the video contains a lot of misinformation, especially with regard to Bernard Oliver.

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I only watched the video about Heath. Who was doing the voice over?

Edit - Just watched the Cliff video as well. Although I'm not saying there isn't a possibility of it being true, the video contains a lot of misinformation, especially with regard to Bernard Oliver.
Barrister Michael Shrimpton is spilling the beans.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/shrimpton/

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I only watched the video about Heath. Who was doing the voice over?

Edit - Just watched the Cliff video as well. Although I'm not saying there isn't a possibility of it being true, the video contains a lot of misinformation, especially with regard to Bernard Oliver.
The timeline would make Bernard between 8-10 when he visited Suffolk,perfect for an 18-20 year old singer to victimise.(There were always rumours that Bernard would go off with men for financial gain) but I have to ask myself if an 8-10 year old made his decision to go or he was forced and then rewarded (Bernard had a "feeble mind" and had the brainpower of a 6 year old) or if the video timeline is off by a few years.

Does make you wonder though

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As a cop in Southern California (greater Los Angeles metro area) we were always running into famous folks (both in an official capacity and unofficially). The weird things I've seen involving celebrities and the super rich and the additional stories I've heard from other cops would boggle your mind if ever told. Many of these people, because of their fame, money, isolated lifestyles, and sense of entitlement are as perverted and strange as can be imagined. They tend to indulge their every whim...especially sexually and with drugs and alcohol. Their fame and money truly do get them out of virtually every crime and embarrassing situation right up until they do something that can't be fixed, paid off, lied about, or denied. Most are uneducated, undisclipined, and clueless. They aren't anyone to emulate or look up to...in most cases they're just low lifes with more money the common sense. It's sad they so many in our society are so enamored with these idiots.

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This is certainly not unique to the Brittish. Here is America we have the same issues with our celebrities and politicians...perverts abound.
I posted this banned documentary a couple of years ago.
Video quality aint the best but the audio is perfect.

Conspiracy of Silence:Child Abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankli...ng_allegations

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As a cop in Southern California (greater Los Angeles metro area) we were always running into famous folks (both in an official capacity and unofficially). The weird things I've seen involving celebrities and the super rich and the additional stories I've heard from other cops would boggle your mind if ever told. Many of these people, because of their fame, money, isolated lifestyles, and sense of entitlement are as perverted and strange as can be imagined. They tend to indulge their every whim...especially sexually and with drugs and alcohol. Their fame and money truly do get them out of virtually every crime and embarrassing situation right up until they do something that can't be fixed, paid off, lied about, or denied. Most are uneducated, undisclipined, and clueless. They aren't anyone to emulate or look up to...in most cases they're just low lifes with more money the common sense. It's sad they so many in our society are so enamored with these idiots.
Makes me wish that a real life "Star Chamber" was in force for those that honestly believe that the law doesn't apply to them.The Media is being used more & more now days to passify and deter from reality.

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Lord Brittan 'interviewed over historical rape allegation'


Former Home Secretary Leon Brittan is reported to have been interviewed by police over a historical allegation of rape.

The Independent on Sunday says Lord Brittan, as he is now known, is understood to have been questioned last month about the claim, which relates to an incident in London in 1967.

The Tory peer reportedly strongly denies the allegations.

Lord Brittan, 74, was not an MP at the time of the alleged rape.

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In a statement, Scotland Yard said in late 2012 a woman claimed to police that she was raped by a man at an address in the capital.

It said the woman was over 18 at the time of the incident.

Police added that a man in his 70s was interviewed under caution, by appointment, at a central London location last month. He was not arrested and inquiries continue.

The BBC understands that man was Lord Brittan, who was home secretary in Margaret Thatcher's Conservative government from 1983 to 1985.

Lord Brittan, who was first elected as an MP in 1974, later became Trade and Industry Secretary. He stood down from the Commons when he became a European commissioner in 1989.

Downing Street sources said they did not know about the questioning

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Keith Vaz criticises Home Office for losing sex abuse files

Files which may be linked to child abuse claims seem to have been lost "on an industrial scale" at the Home Office, the chairman of the Commons home affairs select committee has said.

The Home Office has said its own review last year found that 114 potentially relevant files could not be located.

Keith Vaz MP said it was "a huge surprise" that so much potential evidence had gone missing.

Lord Tebbit said he hoped any inquiry would be conducted quickly.

The former Tory minister and party chairman also said there may have been a political cover-up of abuse in the 1980s.

He told the Andrew Marr programme: "At that time most people would have thought that the establishment, the system, was to be protected.

"And if a few things had gone wrong here and there that it was more important to protect the system than to delve too far into them.

"That view was wrong then and it has spectacularly shown to have been wrong because the abuses have grown."

Lord Tebbit added that "it was the thing that people did at that time, you didn't talk about those sort of things".

Labour MP Margaret Hodge, who chairs the Public Accounts Committee, said she was relieved these allegations were now coming to light.

She told the Sky News Murnaghan programme: "Thank God it is coming out into the open. I think the really interesting thing about it is there has been a veil of secrecy over the establishment for far too long.

"Now the establishment who thought they were always protected... find actually they are subject to the same rigours of the law and that's right."

Inquiry rejected
Number 10 has rejected calls for an over-arching public inquiry into historical child abuse claims, but a new review, to be carried out by a senior legal figure from outside Whitehall, will look into the Home Office's handling last year of historical claims of child sex abuse allegations involving politicians and other senior figures.

Education Secretary Michael Gove also told Andrew Marr that there should not be a public inquiry into the child sex abuse allegations.

"What will put people's minds at rest is to investigate properly what happened in the past," he said.

Mr Gove also said anyone with specific concerns "about individuals or about practices" should contact the police.

The prime minister has asked the Home Office to "find answers" about what happened to the material supplied by the late MP Geoffrey Dickens.

Mr Dickens passed the abuse claims to the then home secretary Leon Brittan in the 1980s, who says he in turn handed them to officials - but its whereabouts are currently unknown.

Mr Vaz said the new review was "the right thing to do" and that he was "a little disappointed" that he had not been made aware of last year's review at the time.

He said the new review should be carried out quickly and thoroughly.

The 2013 investigation identified 13 items of information about alleged child abuse.

Nine of those 13 were known or reported to the police, including four cases involving Home Office staff, according to Home Office permanent secretary Mark Sedwill.

The remaining four items, which had not been previously disclosed, have since been passed to police.

The new review will assess whether the 2013 Home Office report on what happened to historical papers containing the claims was sound.

That report found no record of specific claims of abuse by prominent public figures. But it said that although 527 potentially relevant files were kept by the Home Office, a further 114 were identified as missing, destroyed or simply "not found".

The missing files relate to Mr Dickens's dossier of paedophile allegations.

His son has said that his father claimed the information he was passing on would "blow the lid off" the lives of powerful and famous child abusers.

Former Tory minister David Mellor, who served under Lord Brittan as a home office minister in the 1980s, said there had been a "witch hunt" surrounding the handling of the dossier and that the former home secretary was being unfairly "pilloried".

He said the material was spoken of within the department at the time, but it was "not a very substantive thing at all".


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