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Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

sorry for my english :-(

This event probably will go down in the history of the European Union.
Germany's Martin Schulz - President of the European Parliament, publicly threatened yesterday (12-08-2015), countries such as Poland, Hungary or the Czech Republic, which they did not agree to the imposition of the number of Muslim immigrants. ... Threatened with the use of force.

"Europe ultranationalists if they will win, it will be their Europe, not only in this matter but also in many others. We need the spirit of the European community. And if necessary, it must be imposed by force. That can't be - and I belong to those people who say such things - we are in the twenty-first century, we are in the twenty-first century globalization - to solve the global problems with nationalism. At some point you have to fight and we must say: if necessary, also fight against other, we are to get it all one's own way"

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

The United Nations Charter
Article 2, paragraph 4
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

Very interesting.
Very odd.

Is there a language mixup?


If not, once again, European countries are being goaded and forced into taking people...SOME OF WHICH ARE ACTIVE THREATS, SOME OF WHICH ARE POTENTIAL THREATS, and some who ACTUALLY NEED REFUGE.

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

My german language isn't that good to say for 100% but it's a really heavy topic right now at polish forums and right-winged newspapers...

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

"...notfalls jetzt auch mal mit macht durchsetzen." - to force it with (power/strenght/{force - as in military force}).

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Old 09-13-2015, 03:07 AM
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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

Strange that the only source reporting it is wPolityce.pl: a statement of such magnitude wouldn't get unnoticed by international MSM; the translation is fucked up and its interpretation is even worse; basically he said that if the ultra-nationalists take the rule that would be a treat to the whole Europe, not just for that Country itself; he added that we need to re-discover the real spirit of the European community, and that in the 21st century, in the global 21st century, the problem of ultra-nationalism needs to be fixed and We all (as countries) need to sit down, talk about it, fight if necessary, but we all need to find a solution, and that ultra-nationalism will never be able to solve any of the many global issues.

It's metaphorical, he wasn't talking about Germany sending troops to Hungary or Poland, he was saying that ultra-nationalism must be seen as an enemy to fight with strength, which is nothing new for those who know his ideas.
The present situation is the ideal ground for far-right parties to re-surface, don't forget that he's a German, and the last time that a far right wing party took the rule there, it didn't end very well.

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

http://www.se.pl/wiadomosci/polityka...ke_677734.html
http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/pis-i...grantow/8f9qxs
http://www.fakt.pl/polityka/martin-s...ly,572381.html
http://www.wprost.pl/ar/520694/Przew...-uzyciem-sily/
http://vod.gazetapolska.pl/
http://www.polskatimes.pl/artykul/77...sila,id,t.html

and many more :)

Like I said right-wing newspapers... onet.pl, wp.pl those two biggest portals are owned by German group Ringier Axel Springer,
and „Newsweek”, „Forbes”is owned by Ringier Axel Springer too.

On those portals, those news are flashed for couple minutes so they can say that: "we did write about it" and then they are moved to such remote and hidden categories that nobody can find them through their page ;-)

And Martin Schulz is leftist, he is so on left side that if he start walking he will be moving backwards...

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

Yeah, i was typing while you wrote that; as you can see they're all Polish sources, the interview was aired by ZDF during a program titled "Wie geht Europa mit den Flüchtlingen um?" (How does Europe deal with the refugees?), and German media don't mention it (with that tone); smartly, Shulz attacked all righ-wing parties accusing them of being neonazi, ultra-nationalists and so on; the truth is that the people are TIRED of this invasion, to defend your territory is a right and a must, no need to be an ultra-nationalist. Besides, whenever he talks you don't know if it's the Shulz politician or the Shulz President of the European Parliament; for the former it would be acceptable any statement, for the later it would not.

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True, I'm just waiting for Korwin-Mikke to take a speech, that will be funny :-)

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Re: Martin Shulz (german MEP) Threats Other Countries with the Use of Force

Some far left Germans (Not even Germanic) are very open about their wish to out-breed, or culturally annihilate any German blood that was tied to Germans of WWII-

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