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I have no idea about the Canadian courts, but I can't imagine him being found not guilty, surely! The guy is a monster.
Yeah, we know that for sure, but its whether THEY know that. I actually think he will get locked up in a psych unit, as opposed to a "normal" prison.

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Yeah, we know that for sure, but its whether THEY know that. I actually think he will get locked up in a psych unit, as opposed to a "normal" prison.
Which is fine if they never let him go.... I don't care if they do let him go though, he's more likely to entertain as a free man than in jail. If he goes to jail he'll be murdered within a few years (unless kept in solitary).

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Yeah, we know that for sure, but its whether THEY know that. I actually think he will get locked up in a psych unit, as opposed to a "normal" prison.
Yeh I think you could be right. As long as he's off the streets

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Yeh I think you could be right. As long as he's off the streets
Lets hope so; I just hope the shrinks dont think he can be "rehabilitated" and "cured". I feel people like him are irrevocable: if its a personality disorder its the way his brain is hardwired, and nothing short of a lobotomy or similar is going to change that. I myself have Borderline Personality Disorder; its just the way I am. Environmental influences obviously factor into it, but I am what I am. C'est La Vie.

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Lets hope so; I just hope the shrinks dont think he can be "rehabilitated" and "cured". I feel people like him are irrevocable: if its a personality disorder its the way his brain is hardwired, and nothing short of a lobotomy or similar is going to change that. I myself have Borderline Personality Disorder; its just the way I am. Environmental influences obviously factor into it, but I am what I am. C'est La Vie.
I can relate. I've got Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and associated anxiety issues. I just accept it now.

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Old 10-20-2014, 11:19 AM
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I can relate. I've got Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and associated anxiety issues. I just accept it now.
Exactly the same hun; my daughter has OCD and Body Dysmorphia Doc has put her on Prozit (fluoxetine): Prozac in linctus form. I wouldnt mind, but shes beautiful, but she doesnt see it Ill send you a private message hun. Dont want to hijack this thread

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I don't think I'm the only one disappointed that Canada doesn't have the death penalty.

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So, what do you think the verdict will be? taking into account he was diagnosed with manic depression aka Bipolar when he was younger? Do you think he will get the "Not Guilty through diminished responsibility" et al? Watching the video of the murder he seems pretty methodical and organised and very much aware of what hes doing.
Bipolar disorder is an emotional disorder, not a cognitive or perceptive disorder. While manic episodes may influence a person's actions by causing them to feel a sense of personal invincibility or diminished consequences, it does not affect a person's perception of reality to the degree that they are unable to control their actions or unable to distinguish right from wrong.

I doubt that Magnotta's prior diagnosis as bipolar will have any significant bearing on the outcome of his trial. If anything, he has all the hallmarks of a clinically narcissistic personality, but that would only explain his ultimate motive in terms of the fame-seeking objective behind the murder. His actions remain his own.

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Bipolar disorder is an emotional disorder, not a cognitive or perceptive disorder. While manic episodes may influence a person's actions by causing them to feel a sense of personal invincibility or diminished consequences, it does not affect a person's perception of reality to the degree that they are unable to control their actions or unable to distinguish right from wrong.

I doubt that Magnotta's prior diagnosis as bipolar will have any significant bearing on the outcome of his trial. If anything, he has all the hallmarks of a clinically narcissistic personality, but that would only explain his ultimate motive in terms of the fame-seeking objective behind the murder. His actions remain his own.
Hi, Ive only just read this. Youre absolutely spot on. His narcissism stands out like a sore thumb for sure, and you've nailed the differences between BDS and Bi-polar brilliantly. My son has bi-polar for which he is medicated, so Ive got "first hand" experience of it, so to speak. Part of it is an inability to take responsibility for ones actions, but there is a big difference between that, and not knowing right from wrong,

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He so obviously knew that what he was planning to go through with was wrong because he tried to evade apprehension before the incident even took place. Not insane at all.

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