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Re: LuchaLibre‬ Superstar Dies Due to Mishap During Match.

People are saying it was Ray's 619 move that caused the injury. But the video clearly showed that he was out before he even did the move. They are now saying his neck snapped back on the ropes.

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Wow. In America there would be a enormous law suit. I wonder if he could have been saved if they would have called in doctors immediately. And maybe treated him like someone with a spine injury, instead of just pushing him off the ropes and shaking him around.

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Ay karamba.....

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Re: LuchaLibre‬ Superstar Dies Due to Mishap During Match.

Everything in wrestling is fake...except the injuries.

Especially the fatal ones.

I surprised that there are not more instances of paralysis in professional wrestling.

All it takes is for things to happen...just...a...little...bit...off...


The spine can be a very unforgiving structure.

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Re: LuchaLibre‬ Superstar Dies Due to Mishap During Match.

It's hard to see what caused the injury.

Ray took him down with his legs around the victims neck, that was the only thing I could see involving his neck........ Couldn't see what happened when he went out of the ring, he could have landed on his head....... In any case he got back in the ring on his own power, and the drop kick that sent him into the ropes didn't seem to bad.

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Wow. In America there would be a enormous law suit. I wonder if he could have been saved if they would have called in doctors immediately. And maybe treated him like someone with a spine injury, instead of just pushing him off the ropes and shaking him around.
He was dead the second he hit the ropes.

The biggest problem facing wrestlers in America is the union busting mentality behind some of the bigger promotions.

They employ the wrestlers as "independent contractors" to avoid most of the labor code and liabilities.

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Re: LuchaLibre‬ Superstar Dies Due to Mishap During Match.

At about 10 seconds, when hes take a faux kick to the face, he really smacked the back of his head on the canvas. You can see him wobble a little too before he gets the head scissors. Look at the foot smacking on the brain-stem area, right where he just fell, and then finally receiving one more kick and threw himself on the rope, whipping his neck and head.

Add all that to the physical exertion of moving around, getting beaten, and your blood full of adrenaline rushing with elevated body temperature... Well, your brain is not going to be ok.

I do think he was still alive for a moment after he hit the ropes, you can see his left leg give some resistance, but gives out when the other guy hit the rope next to him.

Most really serious, career ending, or fatal injuries in wrestling, that are on video all go nearly same way. We need to remember these guys look for bad situations more than we do, and they have had plenty of times to where they have taken too hard a hit and just need a few moments to recover, and go about the match. Sadly this often leads to worse injury to the victim.

Imagine the nightmares Ray must have where he walks into a locker room and sees 30 best friends who have died over the last 20 years.

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Such a terrible tragedy.

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Ernesto Franco, the doctor of the Tijuana Wrestling Commission, told the national newspaper El Mexicano that Aguayo died after suffering a stroke in the cervical region and that all attempts made over the next hour to resuscitate him were unsuccessful. A postmortem MRI was conducted that confirmed that the cause of death was due to cervical spine trauma.

In response to social media criticism that Aguayo had received poor care because the match wasn't immediately stopped and it took a couple of minutes for him to be attended to by a physician, Franco explained that was due to him being in the locker room treating two other wrestlers for injuries when the accident occurred and he gave the incident his immediate attention once he became aware of the situation.

Franco also claimed that the reason why Aguayo was carried out on a piece of plywood was because it was there at hand and they wanted to get him backstage as quickly as possible, where they switched him onto a stretcher to carry him into a waiting ambulance.

The President of the Tijuana Wrestling Commission, Juan Carlos Pelayo, has reacted to Perro Aguayo Jr.'s death by calling it an unfortunate accident that could have happened in any other sport. However, according to Kris Zellner, he also called for the national regulation of Lucha Libre due to the high risk nature of the sport, feeling that it should be treated more like boxing is in the country.

In a subsequent press conference, Pelayo insisted that there had been no negligence in the death of Pedro Aguayo Ramírez. In particular, he noted that The Crash promotion had submitted all the appropriate paperwork to the commission before the event occurred and that they had in place the two ambulances, five paramedics, first-aid post and the on-duty doctor required for insurance purposes.

At the press conference, promoter Ignacio Delgado revealed that Perro Aguayo Sr. had not yet been informed about the death of his son because he is not in good health. The Luchablog notes that "there has been a consistent rumor for months that Perro Aguayo Sr. is in bad physical and especially mental shape, and this would be the first time someone’s acknowledged the situation publicly."

The commission has also issued a detailed timeline of events where they claim a doctor arrived within 80 seconds of the accident taking place, that Ramírez arrived at the local Hospital del Prado within six minutes and was pronounced dead after 61 minutes. Unlike prior reports, here the cause of death was attributed to a cardiac arrest, although if that was the case, then clearly the heart attack would have been caused by the cervical spinal cord injury he suffered earlier.

It is unlikely that faster treatment could have saved Aguayo's life. Gerardo Meraz, a medical analyst for ESPN Deportes, believes that he died instantly from a broken neck when he fell badly from a dropkick by Misterio into the ring ropes and his neck whiplashed back and forth. If that was the case, then Aguayo's death would be eerily similar to Mitsuharu Misawa's death almost six years ago where he was internally decapitated when he took a bad bump from a dangerous backdrop suplex in a major NOAH match. It was soon revealed that Misawa had suffered tremendous neck damage during his career, but he never had his neck checked out by a specialist, which might have revealed that he needed to retire for his own safety. However, it is unknown whether Aguayo had any previous neck injuries that would make him more vulnerable to further injury in the future.

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