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Old 04-27-2012, 06:37 AM
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Judge Denies Request to Release Bin Laden Photos

(Sorry for my poor English)
I'm from the Netherlands.
My country supported the war in Afghanistan.
My country supported the war in Iraq.
'We' lost ~30 soldiers.
Osama is supposed to be the mastermind behind everything that lead to this.
America & the Western World searched for him; 15 years 24/7.
The total economy created around this person & his Al-Qaida is estimated at ~ $ 5000.000.000.000,- (2 wars, searching efforts, WTC etc.)
He cost the American taxpayer $ 1000.000.000.000,- net. (That money didn't vaporize ofcourse, it's now in someone's backpocket)
And after they find him, they kill him, plunge him into the ocean. (against all rules in Islam b.t.w. , so argument of not releasing pics because they're afraid of unrest = BULLSHIT)

FUCK THAT AMERICA! FUCK THAT NETHERLANDS! I, as a CITIZEN, DEMAND FOR INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE > PICS, VIDEO or DNA. IF NOT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! Hope I made myself clear.. .

04-26-2012 - WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge Thursday denied a request to release photos and video taken of Osama bin Laden during and after a raid in which the terrorist leader was killed by U.S. commandos last year.

"The court declines plaintiff's invitation to substitute its own judgment about the national-security risks inherent in releasing these records for that of the executive-branch officials who determined that they should be classified," wrote U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg in rejecting a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group.

The group, which had sought the records under the Freedom of Information Act, filed an appeal on Thursday.

Boasberg said that the Defense Department didn't turn up anything responsive to the FOIA, while the CIA found 52 responsive records. The agency withheld all of them, citing exemptions for classified materials and information specifically exempted by other laws.

Judicial Watch had sued both agencies after they said they would be unable to process the FOIA requests within the time permitted by law. The agencies finished processing the requests after the lawsuit was filed.

"A picture may be worth a thousand words. And perhaps moving pictures bear an even higher value," wrote Boasberg, an appointee of President Barack Obama. "Yet, in this case, verbal descriptions of the death and burial of Osama Bin Laden will have to suffice, for this court will not order the release of anything more."

In court papers, the Justice Department had said that the images of the deceased bin Laden are classified and are being withheld from the public to avoid inciting violence against Americans overseas and compromising secret systems and techniques used by the CIA and the military.

John Bennett, director of the CIA's National Clandestine Service, said in a declaration included in the court papers that many of the photos and video recordings are "quite graphic, as they depict the fatal bullet wound to (bin Laden) and other similarly gruesome images of his corpse." Images were taken of bin Laden's body at the Abbottabad compound, where he was killed by a Navy SEAL team, and during his burial at sea from the USS Carl Vinson, Bennett said.

Boasberg said he was "mindful that many members of the public would likely desire to see" the images.

"In the end, while this may not be the result plaintiff or certain members of the public would prefer, the CIA's explanation of the threat to our national security that the release of these records could cause passes muster," he wrote.

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lol @ 30 soldiers.. what figure is $1000.000.000.000?

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lol @ 30 soldiers.. what figure is $1000.000.000.000?
A thousand billion Dollar is the estimated taxpayers cost to catch ObL & pay for a decade of wars. So roughly $ 4000,- per American citizen, including babies/infants/children.

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one thousand billion dollars, huh.. hmm.. so a trillion dollars? in the United States, we use commas for big figures.. periods mean something completely different. never seen more than one. they teach us national debt in economics class over here. im sure that $4000 has gone up

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one thousand billion dollars, huh.. hmm.. so a trillion dollars? in the United States, we use commas for big figures.. periods mean something completely different. never seen more than one. they teach us national debt in economics class over here. im sure that $4000 has gone up
'We'? As we all living in America? Well I don't. And over here 'we' use dots. And only a comma if there are cents involved. Like € 1.000,97. So one thousand Euro & ninety-seven cent. And I wasn't talking about debts. You sure they also learn you to read?

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(Sorry for my poor English)
I'm from the Netherlands.
My country supported the war in Afghanistan.
My country supported the war in Iraq.
'We' lost ~30 soldiers.
Osama is supposed to be the mastermind behind everything that lead to this.
America & the Western World searched for him; 15 years 24/7.
The total economy created around this person & his Al-Qaida is estimated at ~ $ 5000.000.000.000,- (2 wars, searching efforts, WTC etc.)
He cost the American taxpayer $ 1000.000.000.000,- net. (That money didn't vaporize ofcourse, it's now in someone's backpocket)
And after they find him, they kill him, plunge him into the ocean. (against all rules in Islam b.t.w. , so argument of not releasing pics because they're afraid of unrest = BULLSHIT)

FUCK THAT AMERICA! FUCK THAT NETHERLANDS! I, as a CITIZEN, DEMAND FOR INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE > PICS, VIDEO or DNA. IF NOT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! Hope I made myself clear.. .

04-26-2012 - WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge Thursday denied a request to release photos and video taken of Osama bin Laden during and after a raid in which the terrorist leader was killed by U.S. commandos last year.

"The court declines plaintiff's invitation to substitute its own judgment about the national-security risks inherent in releasing these records for that of the executive-branch officials who determined that they should be classified," wrote U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg in rejecting a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group.

The group, which had sought the records under the Freedom of Information Act, filed an appeal on Thursday.

Boasberg said that the Defense Department didn't turn up anything responsive to the FOIA, while the CIA found 52 responsive records. The agency withheld all of them, citing exemptions for classified materials and information specifically exempted by other laws.

Judicial Watch had sued both agencies after they said they would be unable to process the FOIA requests within the time permitted by law. The agencies finished processing the requests after the lawsuit was filed.

"A picture may be worth a thousand words. And perhaps moving pictures bear an even higher value," wrote Boasberg, an appointee of President Barack Obama. "Yet, in this case, verbal descriptions of the death and burial of Osama Bin Laden will have to suffice, for this court will not order the release of anything more."

In court papers, the Justice Department had said that the images of the deceased bin Laden are classified and are being withheld from the public to avoid inciting violence against Americans overseas and compromising secret systems and techniques used by the CIA and the military.

John Bennett, director of the CIA's National Clandestine Service, said in a declaration included in the court papers that many of the photos and video recordings are "quite graphic, as they depict the fatal bullet wound to (bin Laden) and other similarly gruesome images of his corpse." Images were taken of bin Laden's body at the Abbottabad compound, where he was killed by a Navy SEAL team, and during his burial at sea from the USS Carl Vinson, Bennett said.

Boasberg said he was "mindful that many members of the public would likely desire to see" the images.

"In the end, while this may not be the result plaintiff or certain members of the public would prefer, the CIA's explanation of the threat to our national security that the release of these records could cause passes muster," he wrote.
Why are you demanding anything from America?

What business is it of yours how much we spend?

You sound like another European nut job that blames everything and anything on the USA.

Jealous much?

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Why are you demanding anything from America?

What business is it of yours how much we spend?

You sound like another European nut job that blames everything and anything on the USA.

Jealous much?
Learn to read dipshit. The Netherlands is highly involved as well. Like the UK is and other USA puppies. You sound like another American who thinks the World only spins because you people exist. And yes, I do think you are ruled by pigs. Period.

And for us the US is very important in Eeonomic & political terms as well. It's a global market. Maybe you ever heard of that term? So what happens in your country is important for my country as well. And vice versa.

Jealous much? On what?
Not to brag, but I live in the Netherlands.
You know;
3rd most developed country in the World.
Legalized Marijuana & Hash
Legalized prostitution. They pay even taxes ;)
Low crime rates
***** health care for everyone
***** education for everyone
Solid economy (still AAA-rating)
Huge natural gas reserves, 3rd in the World
High tolerance towards minorities. No different race-classes
No gay-discrimination / 1st gay marriage
etc.

So me jealous? No, I'm fine. Thanks.

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I am not sure he was demanding anything he was stating what happened in the courts, I think it's informative to know what our governments spend our taxes on, I think using an excuse like unrest as to why we cant see the photos or supposed photos of Bin laden dead is contrived they could have put the controversy to bed once and for all, European countries have played a huge roll in both wars so it's citizens have the right to ask what they please.

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to bad no one thought to whip out a cell phone and leak some grainy footage

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to bad no one thought to whip out a cell phone and leak some grainy footage
Jesus they would be worth a fortune but people would only scream fake anyhow.

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