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'He Made My 8-year-old Son Feel Like a Terrorist'

British holidaymaker tells how US Homeland Security official BARRED him and his boy from the States as they boarded the plane for a Las Vegas holiday.
Drew Saunders was due to fly to New York from Heathrow with his parents
He and father Martin, 44, told by U.S Homeland Security they could not fly
Drew's mother Nikki, 42, was allowed to board plane but decided not to
Mr Saunders said: 'What could they possible think an eight-year-old was going to do?'

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A British holidaymaker said he was made to feel like a terrorist after he and his eight-year-old son were barred from the US because they were considered a possible threat to national security.
Martin Saunders, from Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex, was preparing to board a flight from Heathrow to New York with his son Drew when they were stopped by a man who said he was a US Homeland Security official.
Then, despite being just 20ft from the plane - and having passed through two security checks already - Mr Saunders and Drew were told they could not fly to the US.

When Mr Saunders asked why they had been banned, the officer told him there was 'no explanation needed'.
They have now been left £3,500 out of pocket and cannot travel to the US again unless they seek clearance through the embassy.
He told MailOnline: 'I was absolutely gutted. We had prepared for the holiday of a lifetime and Drew was getting so excited to go.
'Having those dreams crushed just 20ft away from the plane by some chap that treats you like a terrorist in front of all your other passengers - well, I was just lost for words.
'What do they possibly think an eight-year-old is capable of?'

The incident unfolded as the pair were queuing up with Drew's mother Nikki, 42, before boarding the Virgin flight on July 21. Mr and Mrs Saunders tied the knot in Las Vegas four years ago and have returned to the country several times since then.
Mr Saunders, who was standing ahead of his wife and son in the queue, was then approached by the plain-clothed official who asked to see his documentation and quizzed him about his intentions in the US.
The father-of-one, who works as a self-employed tiler, showed his passport, ticket and valid ESTA - the required paperwork to travel to the US.
But after he explained where they were travelling and why, the official told him: ‘Not today, you’re not.’
The official then approached Drew, who was told he was also not allowed to board. Bizarrely, Mrs Saunders, 42, was told she was allowed to continue with her travels.

Mr Saunders said: 'The whole thing was completely puzzling. I tried to ask him questions, to try and find out what was going on.
'But he just kept telling me that he didn't need to give me any answers. He just told me that I had to leave and would have to chase it up with the embassy if I didn't like it. None of us could understand.

HOW YOU CAN BE STOPPED FROM TRAVELLING TO THE STATES
The No Fly List, created under George W. Bush, is a list which bars certain people from boarding a U.S carrier, a U.S-bound flight or entering U.S Airspace.
At its most recent public counts, there were 47,000 names on the list, about 800 of whom are Americans.
The list has been challenged on both civil rights and due process grounds. It has also been criticised as being costly.
The government, which was previously criticised for shrouding the list in secrecy, has recently changed its procedures. People are now technically allowed limited explanations to people about why they were placed on the list.
In April last year, Nigella Lawson was banned from leaving Heathrow on a U.S-bound flight because she had admitted to taking drugs.
A Homeland Security spokesman later said those who admitted to taking drugs were 'inadmissible' to the country.
'My wife was in tears, begging for him to change his mind. But he just kept saying that he had the power to do it and that we had no choice but to leave.
'He said that, even though we had the right documentation, that the status had changed, but he couldn't tell us why.'
He added: 'Even when I asked for his badge number so I could chase it up, he put his hand over his badge and refused.'
Mr Saunders insists that he has no criminal record and does not even have a parking ticket to his name. His wife also ensured the family had all the correct documentation before travel, something which was not disputed by the official.
'I don't drink, I don't smoke - I've never even been pulled over for a check by police,' he said. 'And as for my son, what did they think he was going to do? They made us feel like terrorists.'
Mr Saunders initially thought it was a case of mistaken identity and that he could book a later flight once the situation was cleared by the embassy.
But, three weeks on, he is still no clearer as to what happened and, crucially, why.
It is not believed the Saunders family were on the No Fly list because they had been able to obtain boarding cards in the first place.
He said his son has been left 'heartbroken'.
'For me, it's one thing - I've travelled to the US before,' he said. 'But what about my son? His life is just starting and yet he is barred from travelling there for absolutely no reason. The whole thing is crazy.'
Mr Saunders added that the staff at Virgin were apologetic but that the situation was out of their control. 'One of the staff told me they see this happen on a daily basis,' he added.
MailOnline has contacted US Homeland Security for comment. A spokesman for Heathrow said it would not comment on security arrangements at the airport.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-holiday.html

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We have enough law abiding citizens, thank you very much. I guess he was too perfect??

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He can thank the moo slums for that treatment.

Starting with the Fakestinian terrorists from Egypt & Jordan in the late 60's, bin Laden and his cronies and the rest of the psychopaths from the DEATH Cult.



In my interactions with police, initially I usually have been treated like I am guilty of something, am a danger or might be a danger.

This is due to the very real dangers that police officers face whereby a police officer may be severely injured or killed even in the seemingly most innocuous of stops.

This is because of the criminal element and not the officers.



We have to be careful these days.

That's just how it is.

If you don't like the admitted potential indignancy inherent in international travel, just stay home.



Or...you could personally end all global terrorism.

Bring peace, love and brotherhood to all mankind.

That way the restrictions would no longer be necessary.



Until then though...

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Maybe he should have tried boarding wearing a burqa and hijab.

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He should be accommodated by the airport. This is bullshit!

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Strange story, I wonder what leads homeland security to think this man and his son, are any threat at all.

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You never know. Maybe he said some shit on line that got him on the list.

Could be mistake, or we just don't have the entire story.

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Strange story, I wonder what leads homeland security to think this man and his son is any threat at all.
That's the problem I have with this story, it's not that they got stopped or not allowed on the plane, it's because they aren't even given the courtesy of a reason why. It's disgusting.

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That's the problem I have with this story, it's not that they got stopped or not allowed on the plane, it's because they aren't even given the courtesy of a reason why. It's disgusting.
Have you made the effort to express your displeasure to a mosque nearby to you yet?

That is where the heat needs to be applied.

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Have you made the effort to express your displeasure to a mosque nearby to you yet?

That is where the heat needs to be applied.
You have quite an unhealthy hatred for Muslims and blacks don't you.
Every other sentence contains the words "Mooslums" or "Black Cultcha". I will hazard a guess and say you think they are all the same right?

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