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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

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Look, if you have ever taken First Aid/CPR, you would know that if you can speak, you have enough air to breathe. If a person is choking, they wont even be able to cough, because if they could, it means they have enough air to breathe.

The same rules apply to speaking. If you can speak, you can breathe.
Why do folks seem to forget this aspect of the case? If forgot that, but you're correct, it is addressed in the standard Red Cross CPR and Choking First Aid class. Everyone always gets so emotional with these police use o force cases and common sense/critical thinking goes right out the window.

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

I've read so many conflicting reports. Has the autopsy been released?

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

I've read he had no damage to his throat area. Indicating the pressure applied to his throat wasn't enough to hurt him seriously. Which indicates the main cause of death would be his poor health. The officers actions seemed to only aggravate his condition, causing him to die.

This guy's been arrested like 30 times. So I'm sure these cops knew him well. And with that many arrest one could call him a career criminal.

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

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I've read he had no damage to his throat area. Indicating the pressure applied to his throat wasn't enough to hurt him seriously. Which indicates the main cause of death would be his poor health. The officers actions seemed to only aggravate his condition, causing him to die.

This guy's been arrested like 30 times. So I'm sure these cops knew him well. And with that many arrest one could call him a career criminal.
Actually that's incorrect.. There was damage to his trachea.

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He died because of a "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police," the office found, while also calling Garner's "acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease" contributing factors.

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Actually that's incorrect.. There was damage to his trachea.
Was there. Where does it state that?

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

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Was there. Where does it state that?
The autopsy.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/04/us/eri...ate/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/01/justic...ke-hold-death/

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

i can breathe..

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What autopsy?

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What autopsy?
The one CNN quoted. Go look for it yourself.

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Re: Grand Jury Declines To Indict NYPD Officer In Chokehold Death Of Eric Garne

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Look, if you have ever taken First Aid/CPR, you would know that if you can speak, you have enough air to breathe. If a person is choking, they wont even be able to cough, because if they could, it means they have enough air to breathe.

The same rules apply to speaking. If you can speak, you can breathe.
Well they should have immediately put him into the recovery position then, it's obvious he posed no further threat and the golden rule of first aid is first do no harm, he may well have been breathing fine but might have started panicking.
You don't want someone that size going into apoplexy or something similar

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