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Now I am not for one moment saying i like those cheese eating surrender monkeys but the definatly got this one rite. . .

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At least two women have been detained in France while wearing Islamic veils across their faces, after a law banning the garment in public came into force.

Police said they were held not because of their veils but for joining an unauthorised protest against the ban.

France is the first country in Europe to publicly ban a form of dress some Muslims regard as a religious duty.

Anyone caught breaking the law will be liable to a fine of 150 euros (£133; $217) and a citizenship course.

People forcing women to wear the veil face a much larger fine and a prison sentence of up to two years.

It was not clear whether the women detained at the protest would also be fined for their veils.

They had taken part in a demonstration outside Paris' Notre Dame cathedral. Police said the protest had not been authorised and so people were asked to move on. When they did not, they were arrested.

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"Today was not about arresting people because of wearing the veil. It was for not having respected the requirement to declare a demonstration," said police spokesman Alexis Marsan.

Under the law, any woman - French or foreign - walking on the street or in a park in France and wearing a face-concealing veil such as the niqab or burka can be stopped by police and given a fine.

It is a small fine, but symbolically this is a huge change, says the BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris.

Guidelines issued to police say they should not ask women to remove their veils in the street, but should escort them to a police station where they would be asked to uncover their faces for identification.

The French government says the face-covering veil undermines the basic standards required for living in a shared society and also relegates its wearers to an inferior status incompatible with French notions of equality.

The ban on face coverings - which does not explicitly mention Islamic veils, but exempts various other forms - has angered some Muslims and libertarians.

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Exceptions to ban on public face covering
Motorcycle helmets
Face-masks for health reasons
Face-covering for sporting or professional activities
Sunglasses, hats etc which do not completely hide the face
Masks used in "traditional activities", such as carnivals or religious processions
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A French Muslim property dealer, Rachid Nekkaz, said he was creating a fund to pay women's fines, and encouraged "all free women who so wish to wear the veil in the street and engage in civil disobedience".

Mr Nekkaz said he and "a female friend wearing the niqab" were arrested at a separate demonstration in front of President Nicolas Sarkozy's Elysee Palace.

"We wanted to be fined for wearing the niqab, but the police didn't want to issue a fine," he told the AFP news agency.

In the southern city of Avignon a woman boarded a train wearing a niqab - as she had long declared she would - unchallenged by police.

"It's not an act of provocation," said the woman, Kenza Drider.

"I'm only carrying out my citizens' rights, I'm not committing a crime... If they ask me for identity papers I'll show them, no problem."


Now the rest of the world follow suit and fucking ban these stupid cousin rapping taliban mother fuckers.


I FUCKING SPIT ON ISLAM!!!!

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Really? Do you ever read first?

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In Islamic countries it's the law to wear a veil or abide by proper clothing, why can't a Western country have similar rules? If you want to stay in said country either abide by them or fuck off.
I know, I have spent months in Islamic countries. I understand what culture is, defined.

What I want to know is why they can't be worn in Europe. I can read and find my own answers to anything. But I want to hear from real people here and now. Retaliatory politics?

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Thing is, not that many women in France wear them, or so I've read.

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Yay!...they should ban all kinds of rags! on peoples heads.

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Re: France Begins Ban on Niqab and Burqa

they didnt just ban burqa's and niqabs, they've banned anything that covers the face and have listed a small list of items that are ok, like motorcycle helmets and some other things.

apparently 2 women have already been arrested and 1 non muslim, white man who was wearing a burqa as protestm, there's a few vids already online of these idiots and their stupid protests

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Good call. Hopefully the rest of Europe with follow suit.

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Re: France Begins Ban on Niqab and Burqa

I take my hat off to France for having the balls to do this. I would like England to grow a pair as well, where we’ve been threatened by the al-muhajiroun for hanging OUR OWN NATION’S FLAG because they feel offended by the red cross and its symbolism.

From what I understand, the burkha and niqab is more of a cultural artefact (used to disenfranchise women) rather than religious dress and that’s why the majority of Muslims aren’t that bothered about it. Even in France where there are over 5 million Muslims, fewer than 2,000 women dress in the burkha/niqab. And for those protesting, back to the Middle East you go and stop trying to force your fucking culture on to others

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