Go Back  

Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White. 

Current Rating:

Join NowJoin Now
 
  #1  
Old 05-17-2015, 06:51 PM
Top Gear's Avatar
Top Gear
Offline:
1095 DAMASCUS STEEL
Poster Rank:51
Join Date: Mar 2015
Contributions: 1
 
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Quoted: 9780 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
8/20 4/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss17110
Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

Last week The Ryersonian reported on an incident that involved two first-year journalism students who were turned away from an event organized by Racialized Students' Collective because they are white. Since then there has been a lot of commentary on the piece and a lot of debate -- a lot of the criticism is valid.

There are two sides to the story: 1) the media has a right to attend public events and report on matters that are in the public interest. The student media needs to cover initiatives that are happening on campus so that we draw attention to them and in turn create awareness (The Ryersonian reported that one student said he was covering the meeting for an assignment). 2) Marginalized groups have a right to claim spaces in the public realm where they can share stories about the discrimination they have faced without judgment and intrusion from anyone else.

I am a person of colour and a journalist and so there are two conflicting voices inside my head. But in this case one voice, that of a person of colour, is louder and my conscience does not allow me to be impartial. I have to take a side.

The organizers of the event, the Racialized Students' Collective, should have done a better job of labelling this event as a safe space on the Ryerson Students' Union online calendar. They should label safe spaces clearly and maybe even host events that educate the public on what they mean. Doing so will help the public and the media have a better understanding of the purpose and value of these spaces.

However, the point to note is not that two white students were asked to leave the event, but rather that this was a safe space and that we as a newsroom, as a campus and as a society are not as knowledgeable as we should be about what these spaces mean.

It's not just important, but it's essential, for marginalized groups to have safe spaces on campus to engage with people who understand what they go through. Though this group is funded by Ryerson's student union, it works to serve a particular group and a particular purpose. Many students at Ryerson have encountered racism in their life that is impossible to forget and many are exposed to discrimination on a daily basis. This group and these sort of events allow people of colour to lay bare their experiences and to collectively combat this societal ailment. These spaces are rare places in the world not controlled by individuals who have power, who have privilege.

These spaces, which are forums where minority groups are protected from mainstream stereotypes and marginalization, are crucial to resistance of oppression and we, as a school and as a society, need to respect them.

Earlier in the week a newsroom colleague and I went to an ad-hoc committee meeting on sexual assault policy. When we arrived we were told it was a safe space, and that we would not be able to report on anything that would be discussed in the meeting.

We understood the value of these sorts of events, where people can share their common struggles. Our understanding let us attend and contribute to the conversation, even if we couldn't report about it.
We understood the people there had a right to privacy. They had a right to collectively work through the challenges society had imposed on them. They had a right to claim parts of the campus, parts of the world, for a few hours in hopes of creating broader social change.

The two students who tried to enter the RSC meeting said that they were embarrassed when they were asked to leave and that the group was being counterproductive in sectioning themselves off. Similarly, some of the comments on the piece written about these students speaks to the idea that excluding certain people from these events, this dialogue, is encouraging racial tension. Their embarrassment isn't as important as the other issues involved here.

Segregation was imposed on people of colour by people of privilege, not the other way around. The very fact that individuals organizing to help each other get through social barriers and injustices are being attacked and questioned for their peaceful assembly is proof that they were right to exclude those students.

Racialized people experience systemic discrimination on a daily basis, on many levels, and in ways that white people may never encounter. The whole point of these safe spaces is to remove that power dynamic. That's partly what makes them spaces for healing.

The presence of any kind of privilege puts unnecessary pressure on the people of colour to defend any anger or frustrations they have, to fear the outcome of sharing their stories. The attendees are trying to move forward by supporting each other and they should not have to defend themselves, they should not fear the consequences of raising their voices.

Instead of focusing on why those students were asked to leave, we should be thinking about the history of oppression that makes these kinds of groups and these kinds of places so very important. We should be focusing on how to be aware and respectful of the rights of both the press and marginalized groups. We have to find a way to coexist peacefully.

The West has a history of oppressing people of colour: from Africans who were enslaved and brought to the New World, to native people whose land was stolen by Europeans. This kind of oppression is still witnessed today, in the way the black community is treated in the United States, in the state of African nations trying to recover from the collapse of the previous colonial rule, and in the continuing struggles of indigenous peoples.

White people may experience occasional and unacceptable prejudice, but not racism. They do not experience the systemic racism that makes it hard for them to find jobs, housing, health care and justice in the legal system.

Racism is not personal, it is structural. Unlike the arena of mainstream media, the educational system, religious institutions and judicial systems that reinforce hurtful stereotypes, these spaces remind the oppressed that they are human, that they deserve respect.

University student Katie Dove-Dixon, 24, says: "I 100 per cent agree that marginalised groups need safe spaces.

And she doesn't think it's possible for a white person to experience racism in this country.
"I could experience an individual situation where I experience prejudice or bigotry but it would be an individual instance...

"Because I do not experience far-reaching racism which systemically has oppressed me for 400 years and continues to oppress me in every facet of my life."

Katie says it's all about context: "If you look at it sociologically, racism is the experience of prejudice plus power.
"It can only be experienced if there's that context of colonial oppression and media bias."

http://www.ryersonian.ca/white-stude...t-group-event/

Your Source For Death Pictures and Death Video
layton.jpg  

Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Top Gear For This Useful Post:
ewnasssty, kikaha, Pyramid_Head
The Following 3 Users Disliked Top Gear For This Post:
himself, shoelessjojackson, slyksleevemuckyey
  #2  
Old 05-17-2015, 07:04 PM
commondenom's Avatar
commondenom
Offline:
puelling pueman
Poster Rank:128
m
Join Date: Apr 2010
 
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Quoted: 2543 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
8/20 13/20
Today Posts
3/11 sssss8007
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

loads of safe spaces here.... fuck right off with your victim mentality...


Reply With Quote
The Following 29 Users Say Thank You to commondenom For This Useful Post:
57chevylv, Arkoquisa, Azimuth, Ballerina, Belletaine, CuriousGeorge420, d1zz3213, dcaccount22, ewnasssty, Fascam, HelloNurse!, himself, Illusion, janet291, K9Grip, Paupercool1, pharmrlee, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, Pyramid_Head, Raevynn, rapeWhistle, RealityUnfolding, rob666, SargeistExisting, shoelessjojackson, slyksleevemuckyey, Top Gear, Xfactor
The Following 3 Users Disliked commondenom For This Post:
kikaha, michaelcmidd26, winvens
  #3  
Old 05-17-2015, 09:51 PM
CrunchyCripple
Offline:
My Rank: MASTER SERGEANT
Poster Rank:364
Female
Join Date: May 2013
 
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Quoted: 856 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
3/20 7/20
Today Posts
1/11 sssss2030
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

"Because I do not experience far-reaching racism which systemically has oppressed me for 400 years and continues to oppress me in every facet of my life."

Anyone who tries to lay claim to the abuse and hurt that happened to those in generations before them, is a twat.

What happened 400 years ago to my ancestors, DID NOT HAPPEN TO ME. Their hardships are not mine. It would be HIGHLY disrespectful for me to claim them as my own.

Reply With Quote
The Following 24 Users Say Thank You to CrunchyCripple For This Useful Post:
adhartz, Belletaine, Clubhouse, coverdale0, CuriousGeorge420, d1zz3213, dcaccount22, ewnasssty, flyflicker123, himself, invertigo, janet291, K9Grip, Karma, kikaha, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, Pyramid_Head, Sarge99, slyksleevemuckyey, teacherof2, Top Gear, winvens, Xfactor
The Following Users Disliked This Post By CrunchyCripple:
shoelessjojackson
  #4  
Old 05-17-2015, 10:57 PM
Metal Mike's Avatar
Metal Mike
Offline:
My Rank: MAJOR
Poster Rank:60
The Untrollable
Join Date: Jun 2013
 
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Quoted: 9256 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 7/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss15388
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

"Every facet" of her life? Seriously?

Does this girl not understand that not every white person in a position of authority or power becomes a Klansmen when they encounter someone of a different skin color?

Reply With Quote
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to Metal Mike For This Useful Post:
adhartz, d1zz3213, dragonhalf13570, ewnasssty, himself, Karma, Oswald2001, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, Sarge99, sherrimccharles, teacherof2, Top Gear, WHITEWIDOW, winvens
The Following Users Disliked This Post By Metal Mike:
kikaha
  #5  
Old 05-18-2015, 01:47 AM
SwanSong
Offline:
So Fucking Banned
Poster Rank:369
GenderFluid as Fuck & No Longer Afraid
Join Date: Apr 2013
 
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Quoted: 574 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 8/20
Today Posts
0/11 sssss2006
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

This is all so ridiculous....
EQUALITY FOR ALL!

Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to SwanSong For This Useful Post:
BadmouthBetty, dragonhalf13570, janet291, Sarge99, teacherof2
  #6  
Old 05-18-2015, 08:54 AM
jackdiggums's Avatar
jackdiggums
Offline:
My Rank: LANCE CORPORAL
Poster Rank:1743
Join Date: Sep 2009
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
0/20 14/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssssss184
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

Generations of good non minority people stood together with minorities and fought to end the indignity of segregation. To self segregate and exclude anyone is a giant step backwards and a slap in the face to anyone involved in any effort of working twords a post racial future.
So hows it gonna be? Equal but separate? Or separate but equal? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Reply With Quote
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to jackdiggums For This Useful Post:
Belletaine, coverdale0, d1zz3213, dcaccount22, ewnasssty, himself, janet291, kikaha, Paupercool1, Sarge99, sherrimccharles, slyksleevemuckyey
  #7  
Old 05-18-2015, 10:13 AM
Nasty Nuggets
Offline:
My Rank: CORPORAL
Poster Rank:1027
Join Date: Sep 2012
 
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 191 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
3/20 9/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssssss406
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

White people need safe spaces free from ethnic minorities, but that would be racist

Reply With Quote
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to Nasty Nuggets For This Useful Post:
87wildside, Ballerina, commondenom, coverdale0, dcaccount22, dragonhalf13570, ewnasssty, flyflicker123, himself, Paupercool1, pharmrlee, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, Sarge99, SargeistExisting
The Following Users Disliked This Post By Nasty Nuggets:
kikaha
  #8  
Old 05-18-2015, 01:36 PM
TheVrist's Avatar
TheVrist
Offline:
😉
Poster Rank:88
dude
Join Date: Jan 2010
Contributions: 1
 
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Quoted: 4573 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
10/20 14/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss11705
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

People like this is what stops forward movement.

Sad part, are the apologetic white progressives that enable them.

__________________
leaving people pounding their refresh button circa 2010.
Reply With Quote
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to TheVrist For This Useful Post:
87wildside, Azimuth, Clubhouse, CuriousGeorge420, dcaccount22, ewnasssty, himself, jackdiggums, janet291, K9Grip, kikaha, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, rapeWhistle, slyksleevemuckyey, teacherof2, uloveme, warship_satin
  #9  
Old 05-18-2015, 02:18 PM
Pyramid_Head's Avatar
Pyramid_Head
Offline:
My Rank: MAJOR
Poster Rank:80
Male
Join Date: Aug 2009
 
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Quoted: 1095 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
2/20 15/20
Today Posts
0/11 ssss12566
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

Yea but this won't be all over the news because it was against white people. It's almost a fucking crime to be white these days.

Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Pyramid_Head For This Useful Post:
87wildside, CuriousGeorge420, ewnasssty, himself, Pink., PTSD Is My Life, slyksleevemuckyey, teacherof2, Top Gear, uloveme
The Following 2 Users Disliked Pyramid_Head For This Post:
kikaha, shoelessjojackson
  #10  
Old 05-18-2015, 04:45 PM
CrunchyCripple
Offline:
My Rank: MASTER SERGEANT
Poster Rank:364
Female
Join Date: May 2013
 
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Quoted: 856 Post(s)
Activity Longevity
3/20 7/20
Today Posts
1/11 sssss2030
Re: Ethnic Minorities Deserve Safe Spaces Without White.

Also, if someone acts racist towards you - You have a personal problem with that person - NOT every person of their race.

That form of thinking makes you as big of an asshat as the racist.

Because I have the same skin tone as someone who hurt your feelings, I am also an assumed racist and unsafe? How sweet.

Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to CrunchyCripple For This Useful Post:
CuriousGeorge420, ewnasssty, himself, janet291, kikaha, Pink., slyksleevemuckyey, teacherof2, winvens

Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2010 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO