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There is a law in Germany.

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§ 90a StGB denigration of the state and its symbols

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(2) Whoever defaces
the colors, the flag, the coat of arms or the anthem of the Federal Republic of Germany or (...)
shall be punished with imprisonment up to three years
I suppose any country has a law like this.
To protect high treason.

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Here is what I found in reguards to the U.S.A.:

The flag of the United States is sometimes symbolically burnt, often in protest of the policies of the American government, both within the country and abroad. The United States Supreme Court has ruled that, due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag, due to its status as "symbolic speech."

In 1862, during the Union army's occupation of New Orleans in the American Civil War, the military governor, Benjamin Franklin Butler, sentenced William B. Mumford to death for removing an American flag. In 1864 John Greenleaf Whittier wrote the poem Barbara Frietchie, which told of a, probably fictional, incident in which Confederate soldiers were deterred from defacing an American flag. The poem contains the famous lines:

"Shoot, if you must, this old gray head,
But spare your country's flag," she said.


US flag depiction in a mural in Tehran
An upside-down U.S. flag at a Washington, D.C. protest against the Iraq War.During the United States involvement in the Vietnam War American flags were sometimes burned during anti-war protest demonstrations.[33]

Today, defacing a flag is an act of protected speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, as established in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990).

After these decisions, several "flag burning" amendments to the Constitution have been proposed. On June 22, 2005, a flag burning amendment was passed by the House with the needed two-thirds majority. On June 27, 2006, the most recent attempt to pass a ban on flag burning was rejected by the Senate in a close vote of 66 in favor, 34 opposed, one vote short of the two-thirds majority needed to send the amendment to be voted on by the states.[34]

Flying an American flag upside down is not necessarily meant as political protest. The practice has its origin in a military distress signal; displaying a flag in this manner is "a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property";[35] it has been used by extension to make a statement about distress in civic, political, or other areas. Upside-down flying of the flag was ruled constitutional in Spence v. Washington, a 1974 Supreme Court ruling.[36]

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i've heard of various musicians getting arrested for defacing or burning the american flag on stage

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I see you thanked me for that post.
Nice. You can probably understand
that I am German and patriot
and that I will always protect my
great country.

And again: Being a nationalist
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And again: Being a nationalist
has nothing to do
with being a racist.
Indeed, it is a fine line that FIREFLY_CRAP can't seem to understand.

In my opinion, they came to your country and took the hand outs, they should be grateful and integrate. If they don't like it, get the fuck out.

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dead right FD, i only watched 10 secs or so of that vid it freaks me out, i kinda got a vision of what they want round the world its feckin frightening i cant believe more isnt being done to reign these fuckers in, its gonna be way too late when they have took over and no one did a thing for fear of being branded racist. They are laughing.

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i know i'd be pissed off if i saw the flanders flag fucked up like that

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dead right FD, i only watched 10 secs or so of that vid it freaks me out, i kinda got a vision of what they want round the world its feckin frightening i cant believe more isnt being done to reign these fuckers in, its gonna be way too late when they have took over and no one did a thing for fear of being branded racist. They are laughing.
Well, like I said, it's a fine line between racist and just putting your foot down and saying "ENOUGH". At least here in the U.S., as politically correct as this place can get, if those fucks try putting their scribble on the U.S. flag and flying it they will promptly be put in their place.

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Shit like that makes me glad we have the government guaranteed right to bear arms.

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